Jobs that either don’t contribute in any meaningful way or jobs where one would be better off if they were paid to be on call.

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    If your job main tool is PowerPoint then there’s a high probability that your job is a bullshit job.

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        It’s basically modelling. With the same spread of poorly paid to insanely paid for no good reason.

        Influencers in the modern age are competing for advertiser attention.

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    Tax prep software companies and tax prep services in general.

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      Yep.

      Government already knows everything you owe.

      They just cant tell you

      Cause Tax prep lobbying said it would be unfair to their business.

      So you gotta play the whole complicated game of figuring out your taxes, because H&R Cock wants your refund.

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        Lol it’s so funny how many bad takes there are in this thread. But saying that the government knows everything g you owe is one of the worst one.

        No they fucking don’t. Sometimes they aren’t even sure that someone who got both his legs cut off needs disability, or that they can’t regrow their legs.

        Or that a dead person can’t have a job.

        Like, there are plenty of independent contractors and businesses that need to report their income, ecause how the fuck would they know that ?

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          I get that there are a lot of people with special types of jobs where their specific financial circumstances or the way they earn money is unusual. In that regard, I get why those people need to file their taxes.

          But what about the remaining vast majority of people with standard jobs? The government absolutely does know how much I make and it makes zero sense for us to have to fill out a bunch of paperwork and not make a mistake on something that the government already knows the right answer to.

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      I’m going to catch some flak but I found myself in a position where H&R Block came in handy. It wasn’t for any services they rendered but because they have something akin to a protection plan where you pay a one time fee and they provide legal representation if any tax authority decides to come at you after filing.

      The two times I used them were when I made an interstate move and the following year when I purchased a house. The place I moved to has a byzantine regional tax authority that collects local taxes on behalf of most - but not all - municipalities in the county (like I said - byzantine). This regional tax authority is notoriously disorganized and aggressive, opening investigations about years old tax debt that amounts to pennies only to discover that the debt was paid but their records were misplaced.

      Both years I filed with H&R Block and signed up for their protection plan. Both years the regional tax authority opened investigations. Both years H&R Block paid for a lawyer to get on the phone and get the stick out of the tax authority’s ass.

      This is a super niche case but until I have a year where I basically don’t do anything interesting (move, have a kid, change jobs, etc.) or the regional tax authority gets it’s shit together and chills out H&R Block is actually providing value to me.

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      They exist to take the blame. “PwC says we have to close down the plant, those damn bean counters!” - CEO who told PwC she wants to close down the plant

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      The workers might know, but the executives would rather pay millions so a big name can tell them.

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        Because they are connected to them. This is what happened with Toys R US. Bain Capital bought control and made the company hire consultants from Bain Capital.

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    My apartment complex uses a package delivery service that basically acts as a middle man to receive your packages and deliver it to you. They use contractors who pick up packages from their warehouse and deliver them door-to-door. As expected, it’s common for packages to get lost/stolen. Instead of getting your package on the date/time promised, you have to wait several more hours for it to actually arrive. If it gets to the warehouse late in the afternoon, you’ll get it the next day. If you have Amazon next-day delivery, you essentially negate it with this service. If you’re expecting perishable items, good luck getting it fresh. If your package is large or heavy, you’ll have to wait several days as they only deliver oversized packages on specific days. All these are mandatory with a fee ranging from $10 to $30 on top of rent.

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        So the rumor is the owner is related to one of the big apartment companies, that’s why the service is being pushed hard to a lot of apartment complexes in my city.

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      I like how an annual doctor’s visit and a biannual dental cleaning are supposed to be 100% covered by insurance.

      But every time I go, I get a bill later on with the explanation that “the provider is asking for too much money for the services so we are refusing to pay the full amount”. Fuck off. That’s not how that’s supposed to work.

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      health insurance provides a legitimate service to society. not a bullshit job. i get you have political motives to project but it’s not a bullshit job.

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    M I D D L E

    M A N A G E R S

    This is the real reason why companies are trying so desperately to camcel WFH. Covid revealed the truth (that we knew all along) that these people add no actual value to a company. They’re only there to act as a buffer between the C-suite and the peasants.

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      Managers of people can be good.

      Managers of managers are almost always useless.

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      how are you connecting cancelling of WFH to middle managers ?

      Also in your ideal company you don’t have team leads department heads but peasants talk to CEOs directly ?

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      They’re only there to act as a buffer between the C-suite and the peasants.

      This is a very important role in some companies, otherwise the C suite meddling would stop any work from getting done.

      I’ve had two excellent managers and both of them saw their primary purpose as being a bullshit filter to free up the rest of us to do actual work.

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        I am just thinking of my job. The client wants something stupid, I have to pick and choose my battles. When it comes time for me to hand over to fabrication I get yelled at. Never mind the fact that what the fabrication manager sees is the aftermath of my work. They had say 13 bad ideas and I got it reduced to say 6.

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    Flash traders.

    They abuse the technologies used by the stockmarket to buy and sell within milliseconds, so they can make a profit. They add absolutely nothing of value to the system, yet leech both money and talented employees from the market.

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      Not at all. They are the ones who make markets efficient. Although I would consider frontrunning retail using private order flow data is bullshit.

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    Anybody working in SEO / “search engine optimisation.” Complete bottomfeeding scumfuck grift. The only reason it’s not considered fraud is because the government hasn’t caught up to it yet.

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      I’ll take the bait a little. I will help small businesses out of SEO holes from time to time. My friends’ business was really stuck, and often you just need an outside eye to point out some obvious things: their home page was a splash screen with no text, they didn’t use the most-searched terms in their headings, they were using text-on-imagd with no alt text.

      As, generally, it’s agreed we need businesses to have a society (somewhat unfortunately), and businesses need the internet to function nowadays (mixed blessing), I don’t think it’s necessarily bad to help the smaller guys succeed.

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      Mine rocks out with his cock out. I get a little annoyed with him constantly pressing us to find better ways of working, when we’re already the #1 team.

      But still, the man really knows his shit and has turned a lot of things around for the company. He’s a good person to approach when you’re having a problem, of just about any sort.

      OTOH, before we had him, we were floundering around trying to play agile and not actually accomplishing anything.

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      Never met a scrum master yet who was actually a driven motivated individual. Its almost like it’s a default job you just fall into if there’s nothing else for you

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      lazy trope.

      who hires middle managers ? Execs. Why do they hire them ? to keep a layer between themselves and the workers.

      so whenever you think your manager is useless, remember he’s not there for you.

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      This is the first correct answer that I came across in this entire thread… Ugh…

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    Money managers, financial management. Yeah, they make sense in capitalism but they really don’t produce anything tangible.

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      I think ‘producing something tangible’ is hardly a fair metric.

      A therapist doesn’t produce something tangible, but many of them provide value to their clients.

      A guitar teacher (or any teacher for that matter) doesn’t produce something tangible either, but they again provide value.

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        If the business is to produce educated people. Teachers provide the core benefit… and pretty measurable.

        It’s when there’s a teacher with 7 line managers that are just have meetings to talk about the teachers “output” that causes the problem.

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        Yeah but those aren’t groups I have to deal with unless I choose to. You really can’t get around the financial system. It’s not like I can take a 100 bucks and walk up to say a gas station and say “1 share please”. And before you say Robinhood keep in mind that you don’t actually own those stocks, they own them and you are just “managing it”.

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      I mean most are just greedy cuz the field attracts those kind of people. You’d be surprised how many people have next to no financial literacy and a GOOD financial expert can do legitimate good for these people.

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      The financial industry is, ostensibly, about connecting people that need money to people that have more than they need. In practice it’s about skimming from the top of EVERYTHING in society.

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      They provide plebs access to the complicated world of finance and pass on some of the yield. I think that’s valuable.

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      Honestly, can just be a different form of therapy. Worked with one in conjunction with a therapist through a service provided by my medical insurance.

      The therapist was completely useless. The life coach had me questioning the way I thought about things, and got me to seriously reevaluate the ways I caused myself stress. All she did was ask questions, but they got me to see things differently. Helped a lot.