It’s blatant extortion now.

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    Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

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      I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.

      Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.

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        I lose my home and my way of life

        You could also lose your life if you’re a military-aged male.

        If it comes down to it, many of us will have to die for our country, and the end result would be the same when he takes over our country. I’m surprised that I’m actually surprised this the end result of him becoming president a second time. This has been going even worse than I had expected.

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        Bro calm down.

        Life in canada is legit not that different from life in the USA. You guys would be blue af anyways so it’ll mostly stay the same.

        I swear, most of you people make it obvious how little you know about the US. It’s as though all your ideas about it come from news articles that exist to make money off of your anger and misconceptions.

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          I don’t know a lot about America. I’ve only visited maybe a half dozen of your cities and maybe been on American soil maybe 10 times in my whole life. I’ll tell you what I do know, please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake:

          I know you don’t have universal healthcare. I know you don’t have a specific carve out against hate speech or calls for genocide in your first amendment. I know you have no limit on money in politics. I know you have 2 year election cycles instead of laws that prevent campaigning for more than 12 weeks before an election. I know you have school shootings. I know you have laws restricting abortion. I know you don’t legally recognize the existence of Trans people, never mind their rights. I know we had legal gay marriage on the books 10 years before you did, and the way things are going we’ll have it another 10 years after you overturn Obergefell. I know your banking system sucks, putting profits before people, and couldn’t protect you from the 2008 crash as well as ours did because we have actual regulation. I know you don’t have the same environmental protections. I know you want people to assimilate and “become” American in a melting pot instead of honoring everyone’s right to embrace their history like our mosaic.

          And I know you don’t allow your conquered territories like Puerto Rico and Guam to vote, so who gives a shit how liberal we are?

          I like America, and Americans, fine. But you were right there, a short drive away if I wanted to live like you. I don’t. Why is it not a big deal that that choice might be taken from me? (edited this last line to not jump the gun. Not like fighting has started and the whole point of this was to show I wasn’t overreacting)

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          You’re the one being overly influenced by social media when you’ve been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don’t even understand the concept of countries anymore.

          Just think about what you’d do if a foreign military invaded your country. That’s the same as what other countries will do.

          We’ve heard Americans say “we’ll be greeted as liberators” before. No you won’t. You’ll be greeted as a foreign military invading a country. Americans will die if you don’t get with reality about this. There won’t be an ocean between you and this particular war. There would be a probability that you’ll become collateral damage in a drone strike.

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            You’re the one being overly influenced by social media when you’ve been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don’t even understand the concept of countries anymore.

            Holy crap 😂

            Cognitive dissonance is insane among you people. It’s like you get physically distraught over the crowd being wrong because you can’t rise above your herd mentality.

            Anything to avoid admitting you let other people do your thinking for you.

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            Are you really delusional enough to believe this?

            Is this really how far gone you people are on these forums?

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              Are you so delusional with American exceptionalism that you don’t think it’s possible for democracy to end in US.

              You’re going down the exact same path that many other countries have. In all likelihood there will still be elections in the US as there are in Russia. But you should expect the elections in to be rigged in the same way as they are in Russia.

              He’s already convinced a lot of people that the elections are already rigged, so it’s likely they will “fix” what he’s called a rigged system.

              Media control is already well underway, same as Putin did.

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                You’re twisting your brain into knots to justify all the anti-american propaganda you’ve been fed by news outlets who profit off of your anger.

                Come to the United States and see how out of touch you are with reality.

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        It’s very interesting that he is criminalizing climate change, while seeking to take over the lands that would benefit from climate change.

        There’s another fella across the ocean that is accelerating climate change because it will benefit his country.

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      Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don’t let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.

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      Have these random programs actually helped Americans?

      To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?

      In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?

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        They are in the process of transitioning to a government that does not care about the people and does not provide for them. People here aren’t going to get any benefit. Just like with the Empire, the only ones who reap any benefits are the Oligarchs.

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          Given the crazy spending how much do you feel in dollar value the low end workers would be getting per year?

          They don’t get much money back in taxes, no universal healthcare, I don’t think child care is covered. So what are they getting for all the spending?

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        Maybe, but that’s not what he’s doing. He’s raising taxes on the poor while cutting social programs and not giving anyone but billionaires money.