Stop funding it.
It’s this part.
We’re telling them they’ve gone too far, seeing rules… and giving them weapons. Are we giving them seasons so they listen?
And if they don’t listen, doesn’t this make us complicit and with exceedingly poor intensional optics?
They know that the worst that will happen is a stern warning. “Don’t do that again, but it was justified. But don’t do it… OK, just a little bit, but still.”
The wink and the nod really spoil the effect of the stern look and strong finger wagging…
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“We’re telling you not to do this thing, and we assure you all we’ll ever do about you still doing it is to tell you again not to do it whilst carrying on helping you to do it”
How much Israeli money do you reckon went into the pockets of members of the fascist “freedom” caucus?
Congress would need to initiate it unfortunately
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Or what?
Edit: FYI I’m not supporting Israel doing this
Or they’ll give them even more money and say some angry things about it.
“Or else we will be very, very angry with you. And we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.”
Or the region could destabilize and the US has diplomatic cover to limit their hypothetical response to a more defensive set of operations.
warehouse workers ask Jeff Bezos not to travel by private jet
Yeah, what will he or the Democrats do when Israel does occupy Gaza?
Continue to provide unequivocal support and money to Israel?
It’s not like they’ll do anything else like officially recognize Israel has been acting as a apartheid state causing mass human suffering which in turn grew more mass suffering and conflict.
Don’t you dare cross this line!
Ok don’t cross this line!!
Ok don’t cross THIS line!
Ok I’m going inside, if you knock, I’m not coming out.
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Obama picked Biden for VP because he was a darling of the Israel lobby, who didn’t particularly like Obama. Anyone who’s satisfied by this sort of lip service from Biden were just looking for any reason to absolve the administration to serve a partisan political alignment.
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I too love completely irrelevant whataboutisms.
You think Trump is bad?! Do you think a kindergartener, a sentient corn cob, and a clowder of housecats would do any better?
Israel won’t even need to occupy Gaza after they carpet bomb whats left of it into rubble. 😒
It’s such a fucked up situation.
Pro Israel, Pro Palestine, fuck Hamas.
The Palestinians do have legitimate grievances with the Israeli government that need to be addressed, and Israel has every right to protect itself.
Hamas uses this for their own sick agendas and to maintain power.
Someone pointed it out, but how many of the people Hamas murdered do you think have joined the many protests for the freedom of the Palestinian people?
A lot of Jews in Israel support the freedom of the Palestinians and they have demonstrated such.
Hamas doesn’t give a shit about the Palestinians.
And Israel is showing the same by bombing innocents.
I’m a simple man. I think murder is always bad.
Genuine question… how is killing 1800 people protecting oneself against an attack that killed 1200 people? I would agree that Israel has a right to protect itself from terrorist attacks but I fail to see how killing more people protects anyone. If anything, it’s just instigating the terrorists to continue to try and kill more people.
Yes and that is a genuine and valid argument against Israel’s actions. It’s the cycle of violence.
What Israel is doing in response is wrong.
But I’m shocked at people actually applauding Hamas and their actions.
Who is applauding Hamas?
This should be the least controversial take of all time.
You think Hamas won’t be in power unless majority of people supports it? They celebrated when Hamas murder those citizens.
You think Hamas won’t be in power unless majority of people supports it?
Trump took power in the US even though the majority didn’t support him.
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Hamas is palestines means of fighting back at their oppressors. You can’t say they are separate entities, because without Hamas, Palestinians would all be dead by now. Its like saying “I support having meat, but not the killing of animals”. And why are you pro Israel? They want to do genocide. If the Israeli people are innocent of their countries crimes, they will overthrow the government.
Nah man. Hard disagree with you there.
There’s no way you can kidnap, behead, rape and kill innocents or attack a music festival and call yourself the good guy. If you do, then you’ve got a fucked up moral compass.
I don’t like the shit that Israel has done to the Palestinians either, but Hamas is a terrorist organization only using the Palestinians suffering as a weapon of influence for their abominable beliefs.
They don’t give a shit about Palestinians. They care about power and killing Jews.
The world isn’t as black and white as you make it out two be.
We’re back to the “beheading” propaganda again? What is your source for that?
Bro, listen to anything else besides Israeli propaganda. Most of what they say about Hamas is a flat out lie.
A bunch of 20 year olds raving in the desert are not “the oppressors.”
You are just stating your opinion.
The real fascists are netanyahu and his ilk.
Without Hamas, Palestinians would have their own country lol
Hamas is literally the only reason they do not. Hamas only exists because Israel was finally close to talking Abbas into a two state solution, which he had previously always denied.
How do you not know this, at this point?
“Yeah sure, I will stop killing you and give you your own country, all you have to do is lay down all your weapons…”
Bro it’s been happening over and over for the last 30 years, with Islamists fighting the peace process: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_peace_process
Fact is, Israel is the only country actually trying to create the first ever Palestinian state, and that includes “Palestine”
You can debate opinions all you want but history is history.
Imagine being this fucking stupid that you think Israeli propaganda is true.
Ah yes the most famous Israeli propaganda of all, well-documented historical facts
Imagine unironically believing that. LMAO.
That’s literally the history.
You’re delusional.
Biden “And definitely don’t occupy 5 different countrys at the same time. Some of them for over 20 years. Come on man!”
Listen here, jack!
After decades of turning blind eye towards Israel’s crimes, suddenly Murica thinks it’s going too far.
“I think it’d be a big mistake,” Mr. Biden told “60 Minutes” on CBS in a conversation taped on Thursday and aired on Sunday night. “Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again.” But “taking out the extremists” there, he added, “is a necessary requirement.”
I’m not sure how anyone is taking this as a controversial take. Logistically, practically, and the urgent bloodthirst for revenge make this fucking hard to do. But this seems to me to be a pretty even keeled non polarizing take on a complex situation where there is justification for military action against a terrorist group, and that military action must be measured against the safety and needs of a civilian population.
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Because Israel already occupies Gaza and other Palestinian areas.
Because Israel already occupies Gaza and other Palestinian areas.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, where the hell are you getting your information?
Israel still controls all traffic, imports, utilities, and ingress/egress from the area (if it didn’t, they wouldn’t have been able to cut off power, water, and aid). Israel “withdrawing from Gaza” doesn’t really mean much unless Gaza has elected representation and can sustain itself.
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It’s funny because your comment is literally meaningless. Which terrorist organization are you referring to? Hamas or Israel?
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False. There are 2. One has killed about 1400 people, the other has killed over 8000 in the last week alone.
It’s ok I told the angry pitbull to not attack the baby I slathered in steak sauce. Anyway, off to golf.
The US is sending mix signals. Biden condemns Hamas, calls them terrorists, and funds the iron dome. Of course Israel thinks they have carte blanche in the region. Surrounded by hostile nations, what other nations in the world acts as aggressive as Israel. They do it because they know they have the full backing of the US. The question is will we live in a world without any Palestinians in the middle east soon - coz that’s where we’re headed.
Israel misspelled their defense system. Should be called the irony dome.
I agree with you. But I’d like to add this. I live in Israel at the moment, I’m not Israeli but I moved here for my job. I live in a pretty safe area, but we still had rockets coming from Gaza and from up north Hezbolla. They were explicitly targeting civilian areas. But iron Dome and the other system, David something intercepted it. Perspective on life changes when you see a flying missile heading your way only to get intercepted by these systems. The area where I live is full of Arabs, Jews, immigrant from Eastern Europe etc. and had several pro-palastine rallies in the past couple of days, and I stand with them. Also, There have been at least 5 to 6 Hamas strikes every hour since last week, they are targeting everywhere around Israel and iron Dome is on full protection.
I just wanted to add, I don’t know what for…
Thank you for adding it. It boils down to regular people being hurt, and as an outsider I feel helpless because there doesn’t seem to be a good solution, just less bad ones.
Now that it’s been a week since Hamas attacked, there’s all these stories coming out about how the IDF didn’t even respond to the attack for an hour, and how many friendly fire incidents keep happening, and how incompetent the ground troops are in general. The certainty in their military might is completely gone and now there’s no telling what could happen. Western allies have basically given them carte blanch approval for genocide and now some of them aren’t so certain.
But he said he was convinced that “the Israelis are going to do everything in their power to avoid the killing of innocent civilians.”
- wink, wink *
Too late?
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Sure if you skew the definition of occupy enough, or can’t distinguish between Gaza and the West Bank, because all you know is propaganda.
Go look at a map of the UN borders. Then look at a map of where Israeli troops are
Now come back here and say that again with a straight face.
Do you think we will hear back from them?
Doubt it.
You’re not even in the conversation, what are you trying to contribute, more hate?
Okay I will. Israel pulled out of Gaza to let them have their independence and self govern, they elected a terrorist organization to run the place. Israel has not governed Gaza since then, nor has is occupied the territory. If you want to spread misinformation, at least pick something you know anything about.
Israel pulled out of Gaza to let them have their independence and self govern, they elected a terrorist organization to run the place. Israel has not governed Gaza since then, nor has is occupied the territory.
This is only true under a definition that is entirely biased towards Israel. Israel funded the elections in question, which were held over 18 years ago (long enough to where the average Palestinian *wasn’t even born yet much less had the right or ability to vote), and controls all food, water, supplies, utilities, and ingress/egress into the area. That is not “let[ting] them have their independence and self-govern”.
Delusional.
Isreal doesn’t recognize Palestine as a state. They say they are in charge of it.
You can’t even tell the difference between West Bank and Gaza, just grouping them into Palestine. Seriously, go educate yourself before regurgitating propaganda.
Israel literally controls everything. That’s how they cut water and electricity.
They don’t control it, they’re providing it free of charge.
No they’re not. They cut it off.
They stopped providing these services free of charge to the enemy when the war started.
Israel already controls every aspect of life in Gaza. They ration how much food and water they allow in, to keep them near starvation.
The ration how many weapons are smuggled in and how much aid Hamas can build rockets out of. Hamas rations out the starvation.
Why are you just making shit up?
