Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.
The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.
Translation: “If all the civilians leave, we won’t be able to use them as human shields anymore.”
Edit: It’s also true that Israel has made it extraordinarily difficult to leave. They are not the good guys, here. But there are no good guys here except for the civilians, and we know Hamas is a terrorist organization that is perfectly willing to use them as human shields.
There’s nowhere for them to go…
Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world, and Israel just told them to fit in half as much space at a time when they have no fuel, water, or electricity.
It’s fucking impossible. And if they actually move, the Palestinians are smart enough to know they will never be able to access that land again.
Hell, Hamas is the only ones with the resources to move
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You think Israel will just stop and leave the Southern half?
Even if they did, they’re keeping the northern part and annexing it.
But more likely they’ll be invading the southern half immediately after taking the north.
They can’t even leave Gaza, because Israel is attacking the exit to Egypt.
Stop acting like them moving is in any way a valid option. They are literally fucked no matter what they do. And it’s been like this for a long long time.
You think Israel will just stop and leave the Southern half?
Even if they did, they’re keeping the northern part and annexing it.
I’m opposed to what Israel is doing but the truth is that Israel has repeatedly given back land they have captured during conflicts. So yes, they will not be annexing any land. As well, there is way too much international attention on them right now, whereas their approach of taking tiny bites has been subtle enough to avoid causing repercussions, so they most likely just go back to doing that at a later date.
The thing I don’t understand about this invasion is what’s stopping Hamas from just relocating south with the rest of the Palestinians? Sure they’ll lose some heavier equipment that might be hard to move but they don’t have that much of it to begin with. If they stay and fight they’ll lose the equipment anyways, and only end up getting killed. Whereas if they leave with the civilians, then Israel will look stupid after invading Gaza only to find nothing. Huge failure for them.
Literally your first sentence is a lie whilst saying ‘the truth is’
Where do you get your world news?
Apparently I get my world news from the history books, here’s a few examples you can look up:
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1967 Israel takes control of the entire Sinai Peninsula
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1971 Israel returns Sinai Peninsula to Egypt
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1982 Israel invades Lebanon after attacks from militants
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1983 - 1985 Israel slowly withdraws from most of southern Lebanon
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2000 Israeli completes withdrawal from Lebanon
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2005 Israel withdraws all military and civilians from the Gaza Strip and hands over control to the Palestinian Authority
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2007 Hamas violently overthrew the PA in Gaza (bet you didn’t cry about this)
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2023 Israel withdraws from Jenin in the West Bank after invading
1967 Israel takes control of the entire Sinai Peninsula
Yeah… after fighting 3 countries and winning so hard they actually gained ground.
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And they never built illegal settlements or evicted Palestinians from their homes. /s
Never claimed otherwise. In fact, I literally mentioned Israel stealing land when I wrote:
their approach of taking tiny bites has been subtle enough to avoid causing repercussions, so they most likely just go back to doing that at a later date.
I guess that was too abstract?
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Have you thought that perhaps Israel could just not bomb a civilian area?
I’d argue that not leaving would hopefully discourage bombing the entire area and 2 million people losing their homes.
Israel “we’ll do it anyway”
Who’s the bad guys here?
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Did you forget what prompted this only a few days ago? I don’t know what kind of response they’d expect.
Did you forget what prompted that? I don’t know what kind of response you expect from locking millions behind a wall on their own land.
It didn’t happen.
And if it happened then it wasn’t me.
And if it was then it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was then they deserved it <— You are here.
In this case staying put will likely save more lives than trying to move 40k people per hour within 24 hours.
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40k?
It’s 1.1 million people being told to leave their homes…
40k per hour
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Nah, Israel wouldn’t nuke it. Even they can’t convince citizens to resettle there if it’s been irradiated.
Israeli translation: if you don’t get the fuck out so we can capture and resettle half your city we are more than happy, to commit mass murder instead.
to commit mass murder instead.
Mass murder like attacking a festival and killing 260+ people?
Mass murder like threatening to kill 1.1 Million civilians.
Translation this is your land we have nothing left to lose because of systematic destruction of our land and Culture.
Gaza is more densely populated than LA and they have no electricity, water, or fuel.
The only exit is thru Egypt, and Israel keeps blowing it up.
Even if the message got to everyone, there’s no way people could do what Israel told them.
Israel knows this. They weren’t trying to “help” by announcing they’re going to flatten half of Gaza, they want to cause panic and riots.
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And then they bomb and target those places specifically. Israel is staging a genocide. This statements are just lip service to pretend that they are following some formalism of humanitarian law.
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A random guy on the Internet says it’s false. MSN says it’s true.
Gee, who should I believe? /S
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I did. To quote:" Most of the travelers were Dual European-Palestinian families fleeing out of Gaza," Younis Tirawi, a Palestinian reporter, posted on X, along with a video of the chaos shortly after the strike landed. “There were casualties.” The video appeared to show people screaming and running away as smoke billowed near the crossing…
… After the strike, IDF officials said the Rafah border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt was not the specific target in the counter-attack against Hamas and that the bombs were intended to strike an underground smuggling tunnel nearby, per CNN."
Sure sounds like they targeted and hit the border crossing to me. “Nearby” is ambiguous. Could be a mile, could be five feet. “Wasn’t a specific target” implies it was a general target. Otherwise, the statement should have read “was not a target.”
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Whatever the case, they bombed it. They should have known the variability in where it would land and called off the operation when they saw the humanitarian corridor was in that zone.
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Lmao and you take them at face value. You’re either a shill or gullible as fuck.
Dude, it’s already happening. Stop taking sides, Israel is conducting a genocide as we speak, and you’re here defending them.
Some things to consider:
- Check out some maps of Israel-Palestine over time and tell me whether fleeing Palestinians will ever get their homes back
- Gaza has no bomb shelters. The best they have are their own homes, and hospitals – which are already overrun with local populations, let alone migrant populations, and are being targeted by Israeli air strikes
- Israel is using white phosphorous against a territory which, if considered a country on its own, would be the third-most densely populated in the world
- Supplies of food, water, electricity, and fuel have been cut off, so people who leave their local support systems have no chance of acquiring vital supplies
- There is no exit. Sea has a permanent blockade. The only airport has been a crater since 2001. There are two ground crossings (Israel and Egypt), and the Egyptian one has been repeatedly closed due to Israeli missile strikes – after Israel advised civilians to go there.
- Israel is already targeting evacuating convoys
- Earlier this year, displacement from the war in Sudan was repeatedly called a “crisis” by relief orgs when it reached a displacement of 1 million people in a country of 45 million, one month after fighting began. We’re talking about 1 million in a territory of 2.3 million, in 24 hours
Boy, the AI was drinking when it made that summary.
I saw the worst summary I’ve ever seen on a post about a Firefox bug getting fixed recently after 22 years. The summary was like “the day after Firefox launched, this big got fixed!” And it had 10 upvotes
Between both sides, are there any military lor political leaders that care about Palestinian civilian lives in war? This whole thing is fucked.
Crucial missing context: Israel bombed the way out when people tried to take it.
When arned people ask you to not leave it’s called a hostage situation. The mean age in Gaza is 18 years old so we’re talking about kids and parents being told by men with guns to not leave.
Israeli tactics to steal lands.
