See this is the kind of thing that makes zero actual sense but his supporters pretend to believe he can accomplish it or worse they actually believe him.

Totally agree. Hamas sucks.

Well all those people definitely weren’t just civilians. Why would civilians be holding hostages? That means those people were combats. That’s a good thing then.

Wasn’t there already a permanent ceasefire that Hamas broke?

Be more specific about what you’re talking about and I can respond. Different people and circumstances matters. Context is important.

I didn’t say I have no knowledge of the subject or did I ask you to teach me geopolitics. I asked you to explain your opinion on the matter. When it comes to understanding someone’s opinion I find it best to ask the person directly. But you haven’t really responded to any of my questions so I’m still pretty confused about it for the most part. I’ll read the article you posted. But it seems you think the civilian casualties give Hamas the right to do what they did and Israel just should take it and not respond. If this is what you think definitely disagree. It’s ok if you don’t believe me. All I can do is say what I’m doing and you take it however you want.

Well if I’m being honest from what I know it sure doesn’t seem like Israel punched first. Can you educate me in what you mean by killing more civilians? Like are you talking about similar retaliatory attacks killing civilians more civilians. Because currently I understand why is Israel is killing more civilians. I’m not arguing it’s right. I don’t think there is a right answer here. I do think the context of the attacks matters. Hamas has stated very clearly they intend on perpetrating Oct 7th again and again. Jews being in their holy land is literally against their religion they have said this repeatedly. You can ask a Hamas solder why he’s fighting and he will tell you this. Can you provide an alternative to what Israel is doing? I’ve asked several times. I wish I had an answer.

Yes I want you to explain how the extreme brutality of what Hamas soldiers did on Oct 7th compares to Israel relating. Have you watched the videos? I’m not denying the treatment of Palestine citizens by Israel but that does not give Hamas the right to do what they did on Oct 7th. Again watch the videos Hamas themselves recorded during the attack. They killed those people because their religion told them to. Hamas themselves said they will keep doing it again and again. I understand the death toll is high. But again what would you rather do? I’m just trying to understand your logic. I don’t know how to wage war but I can take an educated guess that it’s pretty difficult to tell the difference between a Gaza citizen and a Hamas solders as they don’t wear any kind of uniform and purposely hide amongst civilians. I’m not defending killing civilians in asking what your alternative strategy would be. Or how you think Israel and us should respond. Because zero response is an unacceptable answer.

I’m so very confused by this situation. For those who are against supporting Israel. Can you explain to me rationally why you think Hamas doesn’t deserve to be wiped out after Oct 7th? I’m not denying the civilian casualties I agree it is unacceptably high But that doesn’t caragotize what’s happening as a genocide. But Hamas has said they want a high casualty rate they are using their civilians as human shields. Would you really suggest Hamas should just be able to get away with Oct 7th because they are hiding behind their people. Like what is your answer if you were the one making the choice here? Please I know this is an inflammatory topic but I promise I’m only trying to understand your opinion on the matter.

It should be sure. But that’s not our reality. Even if you take away monetary value things still hold more practical value. Try collecting and making food for 20 people. Go outside and find all that or grow it or whatever you have to do to get it tell me how long it’s you and how difficult it was to do. Now multiply that effort to 8 billion people.

That’s an entirely different argument. I agree with you on that topic. Reframing capitalism to fit human well being is what we should do. But feeding everyone for free with zero work from anyone just isn’t possible. Saying there are starving people because capitalism is just straight up wrong. There have always been starving people and probably will always be. Feeding everyone is logistically crazy difficult. If it ever did happen it would take a ridiculous amount of work and money from a lot of people.

I really don’t think you understand how many people are in this world. Sure grocery stores donating food instead of throwing it away would help some. But providing good quality food to 8 billion people is not possible. Imo.

We can provide shitty cheap unhealthy food to everyone sure. It wouldn’t be easy but yeah we could probably do that. But we absolutely would not be able to give people the kind of food they actually need.

I would love to live in a society where robots over produce everything. Unfortunately that isn’t our reality.

You need to consume to live. This means you need to manipulate your surroundings in order to survive. So you need to work to have your basic needs meet. You don’t just get to live with zero effort.

I’ve always said that it’s bullshit that those meals were so cheap in the first place. Their lobbyists paid off a bunch of politicians to make it so cheap. It shouldn’t have ever been as cheap as it was. That food is terrible for you in every way. It’ll probably be good for a lot of people to stop eating it so much. So i see this as a win win.

Starfield. People played for 700 hours then wrote a bad review then play for another 300 hours . Bro if you put 1000 hours into a game there was obviously something you liked about it.

Since this entire thread is just people shitting on the first game i figured id be a little different and say something good about the game. I very much liked the first one. Super weird but intriguing story super well acted awesome visuals and stunning graphics. If you like weird unique sifi stories you’ll enjoy it. Its a slow relaxing game with some pretty intense stealth. I can’t wait for the second one. Tho i do wish kojima would move on and make something more akin to metal gear plus death standing. His recent announcement the other day seems to confirm he will be doing that game after ds 2.

Even after kanyes recent craziness i highly doubt hes only worth 400 mil.

How did you lose alpha access? I paid 45 bucks several years ago haven’t reported a single bug and have played on and off for years and I still have access.