Pretty much the title. I certainly believe Trump, Maga, the Military, and the Police will, sooner or later, probably sooner, get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists and leftists and imprison them. How organized and effective that attempt is I am less sure of.

To be very transparent, this is something I’m pretty sure I’d be on the hook for. I have a long log of anti trump, antifascist, left sentiments, and am 75% sure I’ll be disappeared at some point in the next 4 years as I have no plans of shutting up. The only reason I’m not 100% sure is because of how expensive it would be. But hey, maybe it’s less expensive than potentially losing power? So I don’t know.

Never? Not likely? Maybe? Very? Extremely? Definitely?

Thoughts?

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    Unless you’re doing actual organizing, unlikely. The DNC isn’t friendly towards Leftist orgs either, though MAGA groups themselves may become more millitant.

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    Online? No. Online disorganized leftists aren’t actually leftists, they’re leftist sympathizers. You need to be in a leftist org to actually be a leftist.

    You’re not a threat unless you’re actually doing stuff.

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    Not likely. Trump doesn’t even know what those words mean. Temporarily jailing them and protesters is likely a different story, though.

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    For people organizing protests and taking part in them, Maybe to Likely.

    For people just posting things online, Very unlikely. They’ll have their hands full with all the immigrants and protesters first, and there’s far too many people who have said something leftist online.

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    I don’t think it’s very likely. Even if it was even remotely affordable or feasible he actually needs opposition to define himself and his base ‘ruggedly independent’ and as ‘freedom fighters’.

    If he’s going to go after anyone at all I think it will be high profile people for maximum media impact.

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    Given the majority of the supreme court are constitutional literalists, I’m going to stake a claim on very unlikely. That is literally against the first amendment.

    Now, let’s say we live in some kind of bizaro land where you can be taken to court without the protection of the first amendment. (Difficult ti believe I know). You would still, hopefully, have a right to an attorney. If your case is high profile, or you have enough money, an organization like the aclu would help.

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    you don’t have to be imprisoned to have your life ruined. there are many relatively subtle ways to do that

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      Suspicion of terrorism, or nothing at all. If the libs are right they wouldn’t care about charges anymore. But since libs are so rarely correct, the government can hold you for 72 hours without charge and the patriot act has a whole list of charges that require no evidence for an arrest. Also statistically you live within 100 miles of a US border if you’re in the US, meaning border patrol can arrest you for any reason or no reason indefinitely.

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        Yeah, they added ANTIFA to the list of terrorist organizations a few years ago if you remember, so anything they disagree with such as calling for the persecution of specific people’s and putting them in camps a racist act, could likely land you in such trouble I imagine if they ever have the time or crazed reasons to do so.

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    get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists

    They already know exactly who you are. People dont understand how pervasive online surveilance and profiling is. AI makes it simple to compile dossiers on everyone.

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      Ah yes, as always, the ever-knowing magical AI. Because all the secrets of the universe can be aggregated using just few multiline prompts to the ChatGPT.

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        You’re distrust of AI hype is fine, but you’re missing the point. OP said AI makes it simple to compile dossiers on everyone, meaning it’s now far less labor intensive to take all of the data being gathered by SIGINT and turn it into reports. The amount of labor required to build 10M dossiers on mostly impotent randos makes it completely unfeasible, but with generative AI being able to quickly summarize a dataset, suddenly we can have shitty, somewhat lossy dossiers on every moron shitposter.

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    Everyone’s like “it won’t happen” but I remember post-9/11 a specific Linux news site got hit with claims of radicalism and some folks who frequented the site got put on watch lists. For interest in Linux.

    There was a reason folks like me were against all the surveillance from the PATRIOT Act back then, and this is why.


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    Similarly, the Bush admin had the FBI spying on Quakers, the only religious group that anti-violence is such a central tenet to their religion that they by default are considered conscientious objectors and cannot be drafted into the military without violating their beliefs.

    Post-9/11 the government thought peaceful Quaker anti-war activists were dangerous.

    That was post-9/11 in the War on Terror years… It can happen here.


    Sources:

    Linuxjournal gets “extra surveillance:”

    https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance

    Quakers being spied on by FBI:

    https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fbi-nsac/