• penquin@lemm.ee
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    I’ve come to truly believe that MS stopped caring too much about windows now. They’re focused more on ads and other subscription services. They are still in the mindset of “we are the only player in the field and people can’t live without us”.

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      You’d have thought they’d have learned from losing the browser monopoly they had 15 years ago due to complacency

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        They are a mindless organization, not one or a few using logic. Everyone working there can figure out the general issues, on their own, for sure. But it’s an out of control huge organization. Even the top leadership is along for the ride at this point.

        Every department is headed by competent and intelligent people, I assume. But they each only control a small slice of the environment, and even in each division there are many things the middle management cannot control directly. Too big

        It’s not like a car manufacturer, there is an exponential difference in the number of parts to control and the complexity.

        When the sales, and other parts are woven in, I doubt there is a dozen people alive who can explain how all the company structure works together

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      They are still in the mindset of “we are the only player in the field and people can’t live without us”.

      No, they are in the mindset “we are a company selling cloud Linux, our legacy products are money drain”. They clearly state it in their yearly reports.

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      I just picked the one that lets me decide when to download the updates instead of when MS decides it’s time for me to download the updates. And I paid for the pro version just to get that.

      It’ll be the last time I pay anything for Windows, and no, I don’t mean I’m going to switch to the ad supported version next. I’m hoping the last xbox game pass subscription payment I made before finally cancelling it is the last money they ever get from me.

      And to add insult to injury, one of the last things I did before cancelling was scroll through their list of games and add the interesting looking ones to my steam wishlist, as well as the ones I uninstalled and enjoyed playing.

      And yes, I realize I could have looked at that game list without a sub, but I had been delaying cancelling for a while because I always saw more games that I wanted to try when I looked through what they had and needed to do that to let go.

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    Crashing is the smallest problem. All that sypware, ads and artificial idiocy they are embedding in the bloated excuse of an OS is way worse than any crash. I am so glad I switched to GNU/Linux (openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop, after seeing how well gaming works on Steam Deck I also switched to GNU/Linux for gaming) and it is so so much nicer to have an OS that is fast, stable and actually respects basic human rights like privacy and freedom.

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    It seems to me that Windows, which used to be reasonably stable (say, between XP and 10), as Microsoft systems go, has gone into beta status with Windows 11 and is now slipping into a kind of perpetual alpha.

    Disclaimer, I haven’t used Windows seriously for decades (now and then for the odd game or for VR) and only boot it every other month to see what it looks like.

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      stable between XP and 10

      I’m not sure I agree.

      XP was good but definitely unstable, Vista was very unstable at the beginning. Shit, it was essentially broken on release for months for Nvidia users, even.

      [E: to be clear, this was actually Nvidia’s fault. But MS should have known that expecting every hardware manufacturer to completely rewrite drivers in such short notice was a bad idea!]

      It was only late Vista and throughout 7 when windows became pretty stable.

      Windows 8 wasn’t unstable, I guess, just a major step down for usability (accessing the “charms bar” on a mouse was so bad an unintuitive that I’m shocked it made it past the focus group stage).

      Early 10 was pretty stable, but very quickly deteriorated as they continued to shovel more bloat into Windows, spent more and more time working on spying/ads at the expense of other aspects of the OS, and had the bright idea of firing most of their testing team, because beta testing with end users is cheaper and what are they going to do if their PC is unstable? Install another OS? Lmao most people don’t even know Linux exists.

      Windows 11 is basically the same in that regard. The instability of late-stage Win10, just with a lick of paint.

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        Well, I said it was stable for a Microsoft system.

        I understand that it’s strange to people used to windows, but we had computers that just didn’t crash. Ever. Then everything moved to PC with windows and it all went to shit. Now it’s mostly back to unix which while not crashproof is at least reasonably resilient and a proper system.

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      Rose tinted glasses.

      Xp was almost a nightmare on launch. But got fixed (security not withstanding) switching everyone over from DOS to NT was no simple feat, and there were a lot of issues.

      Vista wasn’t great, but the change to drivers made it a nightmare.

      7, 8, and 8.1 were fine.

      But 10 was a nightmare for the first 5 years. Every other update would break things. And those came out about twice a year.

      Windows 11 has been surprisingly issue free for me. 24H2 seems to be the buggiest update since so I’ve been holding back. But I updated to 22 and 23 and I never had any issues, nor did I hear too much complaining. Every major update has some minor issues, and that’s largely why MS staggers their releases.

      I’m honestly surprised MS took this long to pause the rollout with how bad it’s been.

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      Disclaimer, I haven’t used Windows seriously for decades

      Yeah we got that just by reading the first part of your comment…

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    I’m really amazed by their consistent win11 patch fuckups. I’ve never seen it in this dimension with win10. Luckily I’m still on win10 and pretty sure I’ll get the updates past 2025 somehow.

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    They need to go back to making manual updating a thing, plus separating out critical security patches, from their stupid feature fluff.

    I’ve had my system broken by Windows Update way more times than I’ve ever been hacked or caught a virus/worm.

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    For those who don’t know in Microsoft’s name micro means how much effort they’re putting to make their software and optimaze them.

    It wasn’t first time when M$ made that serious mistake. It happned hundreds of times for almost a decade.

    So… software with micro effort…

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      Been working there long then?

      What a childishly obnoxious comment