It will never be $30,000 or less. He did the same thing with the Model 3.
You really just can’t believe anything this guy says regarding his products.
Now now.
You can’t believe anything else he says either.
In real people years or “we will be on mars soon” years?
In “self-driving by 2016” years
Good question.
The Mars base should be started years ago according to what Musk claimed, and they should have manned flights to Mars by now. And all he has is half failed tests just to do one orbit around earth! 🤣🤣🤣For 8 years he has claimed Fully autonomous driving will be ready next year. He even claimed years ago, that a car picking you up and driving you across the country was something we can do today!
Enron Musk is a conman, he is obviously a liar, and there are people who still believe him?!
But it’s all the government’s fault for having regulations that stop him doing what he wants - he’d be on Mars by now if it wasn’t for the stupid government stopping him from poisoning a protected nature reserve and crashing rockets into people.
Don’t they understand? It’s really important to get people to mars so there is a place for rich assholes to go when the environment on earth is completely trashed beyond repair
Plan B secure survival on another planet.
Why? Because:
Plan A Is to make max profits, and don’t give a shit about the only planet that sustains human life.
Oh. So “unveiling” doesn’t mean they have something. Just the “2 years” promise is repeated for the N’th time ;-)
Normally it’s always promised next year, so a 2 year deadline means the project is in serious trouble.
That’s true, he’s been saying 6 months or a year for Full Self Driving for almost 10 years now.
Just a reminder that reasonably minded shareholders would never take what Elon says as anything other than fluffery, and should refrain from making any financial decisions based on such fluff.
WTF? How can a CEO walk from responsibility by claiming puffery? Which is the same as admitting to lying!
In civilized countries CEO is a position of responsibility, you can’t just talk up stock or sales with false claims. The requirements for a CEO are higher than usual, exactly because everything they say can have a financial impact.
I’m pretty sure that judgement is not according to normal practices. It’s disgusting they let that pedo walk again and again.Now you know why China DiSsApPeArS so many of them.
Also known as fucking jail.
Well, the stock tanked by ~10% after the news, so yeah, shareholders don’t seem to be buying it and want more specifics.
You know what would have been even more useful is a 28k model 2. This show was a scam.
Given Tesla’s usual build quality I feel like it’s pretty much inevitable that there are going to be an enormous amount of skull and limb injuries from those gullwing doors.
No way in hell is this going to be ready in two years.
Although I do like the idea behind the vehicle.
I’m surprised at his numbers. He claims a bus costs something like $1/mile, while his car would be something like $0.20/mile. I’m guessing the main difference is the driver, so I wonder if something like the robovan (looks stupid IMO) would be able to replace buses in many cases. In my area, we have on-demand transit outside of bus service zones (a van will come pick you up), so it would be cool if this type of service could connect individual riders to transit hubs.
But yeah, it’s not going to be ready in two years. Could be cool though if it is and is priced as he stated (big doubt).
It would depend hugely on the bus, and the environment it’s working in, but $1 per mile sounds low, unless that doesn’t count labour.
Buses are actually quite expensive to operate, it’s cost effective because that cost is split between so many passengers.
I assume the figure was amortized across typical passenger loads. So if a bus typically carries 10 people, $10/mile to operate becomes $1/mile/passenger. I think that’s what Musk is quoting here. I don’t know where he gets that figure, but if it’s accurate (big doubt) and if he can beat it (again, big doubt), then that’s absolutely amazing!
I tried looking for figures, but most of the numbers I see are revenue per passenger, not operating cost per passenger. Revenue isn’t particularly interesting because so many transit systems heavily subsidize mass transit.
electric robotaxis can help reduce co2 emissions and decrease the total amount of cars. This is good.
Indeed.
I just doubt his ability to actually bring it to market in any reasonable capacity anytime soon.
If it works. Don’t Teslas still have problems in his stupidass underground Vegas loop? And that’s pretty much as ideal driving conditions as you can get.
Ironically that’s pretty much the only place where FSD struggles at.
Looks more like the number of cars will stay the same-ish, but now there won’t be a taxi driver making a living of it.
Wrong. The problem right now is low utilisation of cars. Most cars just sit around 90-95% of the day. A robotaxi would have much higher utilisation, therefore fewer cars are needed overall.
A robotaxi would have much higher utilisation
You could call this “hope”.
Or “wet dream”.
Are you familiar with the concept of a taxi? Do you really think a taxi does not make more trips per day than a privately owned car?
I think that this depends heavily on the success of that enterprise.
I am pretty sure that they start (when / if they start) with a very high number of vehicles in a city.
So glad I have Tesla shorts lol
Fully self driving too! Snerk.
At first, i was staunchly against this as i am onboard the Fuck Tesla and Musk train.
However, electric auto-taxis would be great in addition to mass transport.Fuck Musk, btw
Agreed. Although they started the show by showing a slide of how shit subways are… so I don’t think it is in Teslas interest to be an addition to mass transport. And they themselves walk a fine line between selling a consumercar or just reinventing buses
They would, but don’t expect it from Tesla. Other companies are making actual, real progress while Musk continues kicking the can down the road with bold promises and no timelines.
Where I live, there is a bus driver shortage leading to cancelled buses and limited service. Cyber cab, van or bus that runs the route outside of peak hours to give 24/7 service and monitor routes would be a big help. And it’s a fixed route so the system can be optimized for those.
