This reminds me of Tom Scott’s excellent video on electronic voting machines, where he mentioned that the system for counting votes needs to be easily understandable to the average person so that they can adequately trust it.
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Oh god, I’m NOT watching a god damned 3 hour video on facebook vs fediverse!
Seriously! Why did this guy feel the need to make a THREE HOUR VIDEO about social media??? A 10 minute video would have been a bit much, but THREE HOURS AND 9 MINUTES??? ARE YOU HIGH??? Holy shit…
In fact, the very reality of there being a three hour video of someone talking (as in, in written text this’d be a maximum of 10 minutes of reading, for a slow reader) about a supposed onboarding problem with the fediverse is irony at its finest.
Yeah… sure… if you always expand 10 minutes of content into 180 minutes using a wrong format, you might fuck up getting anybody to do anything. You seem to not want them to get what you’re trying to teach, maybe.
Did you click the link? The main content of the video is about facebook, I just linked to a 10 second portion of it. You don’t need to watch the whole video to understand the clip.
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Why would you downvote a video you haven’t even watched
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i wouldn’t expect anyone to watch a video longer than 3 minutes on the subject.
Oh god, I’m NOT watching a god damned 3 hour video on facebook vs fediverse!
well, you’re in luck. because the video is not about that.
In fact, fediverse gets a 10 second mention while the credits roll.
There, now you can watch the 3 hour video. It’s fun.
I still think defederation is the biggest hurdle. It would be a lot easier if you could just tell people it didn’t matter what instance they join, they will be able to follow anyone.
Usually when I mention it people will talk about all the reasons defederation exists, but it doesn’t change the fact that if a normal person has to start looking up what instance they can follow uncle ReaganLover69 on, they’re probably going to stay on twitter.
Yeah it’s a weird internal problem. It has to exist for understandable reasons, but also naturally makes it so that nobody will want to join any but the very largest instance, automatically centralizing it all again.
Defederation makes it so that figuring out which instance to sign up with in order to see your friends and local businesses (since we’re talking about vs Facebook instead of Twitter or Reddit) would be a nightmare for the average person.
I have multiple accounts on some services trying to get to everything I want to see. I mostly gave up on Pixelfed. My main Mastodon account can see people on other instances but has problems seeing their posts. And I’m absolutely not willing to troubleshoot it because between work, a social life, and other hobbies I just don’t have the time or give a shit.
I like the fediverse. I’m here. I use it. But I’m only going to use what’s convenient and I promise that I have more patience than the average non tech person who wants to sign up using a linked Gmail account and see all the things they expect to see without having to think about it.
Edit: I think my brain skipped the last two sentences in that comment. I just sat here and bitched about something that was already mentioned. I have brought nothing to this discussion and have brought shame upon my house.
Nice! He hasn’t posted anything in ages! But this one may have to wait till I’ve got some time, that is a long one even by Tantacrul’s standards.
Folks (and you 😁), I get you are trying to be helpful but you are missing the point.
I get that I can hit the button. It drives away people in general. People do not like filling out reports. Having to block, report, and moderate your own content is work. Users value having most of that done for them.
I saw some naked monster out of even art the other day. It’s everywhere on LW as well as lemmynsfw.
I’ve watched the whole video through, and honestly that felt like an underbaked take. People will have difficulty understanding federation? Seriously!? Surprise surprise, but if you know what email is, you already understand federation.
I’m sure what this guy is saying has truth to it but here’s the actual problem.
The people.
Fediverse will never EVER hit critical mass unless the users and mods stop calling everyone they don’t agree with a Nazi. Mods need to actually enforce NSFW shit and do their job. Nobody is going to scroll in their off time when you can randomly have furry dick pop up.
The problem is the people. This place is hostile as fuck to the average user.
Fediverse will never EVER hit critical mass unless the users and mods stop calling everyone they don’t agree with a Nazi.
TBH this is to be expected from a demographic made up largely of ex-reddit users
