• multifariace@lemmy.world
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      It is emotionally and intellectually painful using critical thinking while those around you are calling the other side Nazis.

      1 Nazis are bad 2 The other side are bad 3 The other side are Nazis Optional: add an example that confirms bias

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        Both sides calling the others Nazis doesn’t imply that centrists are using critical thinking. It just means that one side is lying. Nazism is a far right ideology.

        “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.”

        — Jean-Paul Sartre

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          Nazis and tankies are both totalitarian - people just seem to have forgotten the term.

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            What is it “Tankies” advocate for that is “totalitarian?” The term “tankie” is the new “woke,” it’s a strawman and a bundle of contradictions based on misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and being entirely unfamiliar with Marxism.

            I suggest reading Blackshirts and Reds, Communism and Communist movements are and have historically been entirely different in aim, goals, practices, and context from fascism and fascist movements.

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    I’ve been working through a few biographies of the top brass of Nazidom, and even with the rather perfunctory understanding I’ve gained from these books of Hitler’s seizure of power and all that followed in Nazi Germany, my ears are pricking up in horror every day as I listen to the latest news from around the world. And I’m not even going so far as the Holocaust. If the Holocaust and WWII never happened, the Nazi regime would still have been an unmitigated nightmare.

    The language certain politicians are using is plucked directly from the mouths of Goebbels’ and Himmler’s rotting corpses. How can they not see what lies ahead if they continue with this shit? We know how this story ends. We have examples of it from recent memory, we don’t even need to cast our minds back to the 1930s 🤷‍

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      The language certain politicians are using is plucked directly from the mouths of Goebbels’ and Himmler’s rotting corpses. How can they not see what lies ahead if they continue with this shit?

      What’s even more infuriating is that when you try to point this out to others, they act like you’re insane/exaggerating.

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      the decent thing to do for WW3 is to start it on the 100th anniversary of WW2.

      i can only hope that the '39s would serve as a reminder each century to just fucking stop. (but more importantly, i hope to be naturally dead by then)

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    Hegel remarks somewhere[*] that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce

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      Something something heglian dialectics, something something new vegas, something something “Fuck caesar,blow his ass away, and Legate Lanius too”

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    What surprises me is that they (people in the past) didn’t have past examples about similar things happening with very bad consequences, we do.

    You would think the knowledge would make a difference…

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      They so often did though, how many massive fires broke out in London before the great fire finally convinced them to stop building overlapping thatched rooves.

      Even during The Plague of Justinian scholars wrote about what was essentially ancient social distancing practices, 2000 years ago later we still can’t do it properly.

      How many times did they have to put up with rat plagues and stinking open cess pits, followed by a big town clean up, and then nothing change in infrastructure or waste management practices, only to do the whole clean up again …until the Great Stink got to close enough to the windows of parliament that those in power decided maybe they should address the root problem instead of applying bandaids every few years.

      (I don’t have a history degree so I’m pulling these details out of the memory depths of my dusty documentary viewings, and I’m probably wrong.)

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      I’m sure they had some knowledge. It’s just that the priests foretold victory in the course chosen by the leaders, the gods are with them! So off they go to war and conquest or whatever.

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    Same. I haven’t used my history degree at all. It has just enabled the “oh, fuck” overdrive in my brain over the last several years. I hate it.

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    I really have begun to believe that politicians should employ historians to give advice on certain political events by drawing comparisons to previous situations.

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    history degrees bell curve :

    idiot end : I don’t use my history degree

    middle : history degree is useless

    genius end : I am the MP for Gloucestershire and the cabinet minister for business