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thehatfox@lemmy.world to Selfhosted@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

ICANN approves use of .internal domain for your network

www.theregister.com

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ICANN approves use of .internal domain for your network

www.theregister.com

thehatfox@lemmy.world to Selfhosted@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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Vint Cerf revealed Google already uses the string, as do plenty of others
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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    It should be reserved for sex toys.

    Just saying.

    • Bluefruit@lemmy.world
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      What are you doing step-LAN?

      • devfuuu@lemmy.world
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        Please don’t use the duplex again.

      • RandomLegend [He/Him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I saw you peeked inside my ssh key drawer last night step-LAN

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      some sex toys are external

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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        Then they go on .external, obviously.

  • solrize@lemmy.world
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    Browsers barf at non https now. What are we supposed to do about certificates?

    • egonallanon@lemm.ee
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      Either ignore like I do or add a self signed cert to trusted root and use that for your services. Will work fine unless you’re letting external folks access your self hosted stuff.

  • Wilzax@lemmy.world
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    Why do I care what ICANN says I can do on my own network? It’s my network, I do what I want.

    • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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      Try using .com for your internal network and watch the problems arise. Their choice to reserve .internal helps people avoid fqdn collisions.

      See also https://traintocode.com/stop-using-test-dot-com/

      • Wilzax@lemmy.world
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        Well as long as the TLD isn’t used by anyone it should work internally regardless of what ICANN says, especially if I add it to etc/hosts

        • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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          Sure, you can do whatever you want. You could even use non-rfc1918 addresses and nobody can stop you. It’s just not always a great idea for your own network’s functionality and security. You can use an unregistered TLD if you want, but it’s worth knowing that when people and companies did that in the past, and the TLD was later registered, things didn’t turn out well for them. You wouldn’t expect .foo to be a TLD, right? And it wasn’t, until it was.

          • Wilzax@lemmy.world
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            Ah good point. I guess a future-proofed guarantee that the domain will never be used externally would be easier to use than trying to somehow configure my DNS to never update specific addresses.

        • Magiilaro@feddit.org
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          German router and network products company AVM learned the hard way that this is a bad idea. They use fritz.box for their router interface page and it was great until tld .box became publicly available and somebody registered fritz.box.

          Having a reserved local/internal only tld is really great to prevent such issues.

      • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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        deleted by creator

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      Certain domain names are locally routed only. So if you use internal or local as a tld, you can just assign whatever names you want and your computer won’t go looking out on the internet for them. This means you and I can both have fileserver.local as an address on our respective network without conflicting. It’s the URI equivalent of 192.168.0.0/16.

      • torkildr@lemmy.world
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        Interesting that you should use “.local” as an example, as that one’s extra special, aka Multicast DNS

    • ygpa@lemmy.world
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      YouCANN do anything you want?

    • Melllvar@startrek.website
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      The value of the DNS is that we all use the same one. You can declare independence, but you’d lose out on that value.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        the only losers in this situation are people that are squatting on my rightfully pirated domain names!

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    That’s good, I never liked the clunky .home.arpa domain.

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      It was just always so annoying having to go into the iPhone keyboard punctuation twice for each domain

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    Thanks but I hardly needed anyone permission to not use that. .local still works just fine.

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      Except when it doesn’t. It can have issues around multicast dns.

    • UberMentch@lemmy.world
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      I’ve had issues with .local on my Android device. Straight up doesn’t work. I had to change to .lan

      • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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        I think it was only added in android 12.

    • LrdThndr@lemmy.world
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      Good luck with that. .local is reserved for mDNS calls, and not every OS treats it the same way. Ask me how I know.

      • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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        Been working fine for me for twenty years or more in a mixed environment.

    • bfg9k@lemmy.world
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      I used to use .local but mDNS can get confused, .home has been fine though

  • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
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    Took long enough

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    Missed the opportunity for .myshit.

  • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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    Thank god. Now iOS will finally recognize it

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    routerlogin.net how I do not miss you

    • Corhen@lemmy.world
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      i loved that it was an option. not sure why it was changed.

  • takeda@lemmy.world
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    I guess no one offered anything for .internal

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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    Woohoo! We internal now! No more FQDN collisions!

  • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    My network is .milkme and I have nipples… will they approve it?

  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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    It would have been nice if they came up with something shorter like .lan.

    • Deebster@programming.dev
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      Oh, that’s LAN - I thought you’d put ian and I was trying to get the joke. Stupid sans-serif fonts.

    • Kairos@lemmy.today
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      Use it anyway.

      • nethad@discuss.tchncs.de
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        You go to networking jail for that.

        • Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Fuck, I’ve been using .hole, is that also illegal?

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          Shit, let’s hope the ICANN cops don’t find me out then… I’ve been using it for years!

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            “I hereby sentence you to two years on your own VLAN with no gateway”

  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyzB
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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    CA (SSL) Certificate Authority
    DNS Domain Name Service/System
    HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
    HTTPS HTTP over SSL
    IP Internet Protocol
    SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
    TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
    VPN Virtual Private Network

    6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

    [Thread #910 for this sub, first seen 8th Aug 2024, 09:05] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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    I will stick with .lan

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