I love how this will gain traction, but when we talk about banning the Dutch guy who literally fucked a child, everyone is like, “But they can change…”
I’m all for banning the dutch guy.
also all for booing the dutch guy until he refuses to show his face again.
In some ways I feel bad for his volleyball partner, whose only other choice would have been to walk away from the Olympics.
I did. Then he opened his mouth.
Who the fuck is this everyone you’re talking about here?
Everyone in all of the threads that were discussing the dutch pervert a few days ago. “He went to jail, he is reformed, etc…”
yes the offenses are disproportionate, but the problem with doping is it directly undermines the integrity of the sport. same with gambling.
How many kids do you get to diddle before you undermine the sport?
How does diddling kids affect competitive integrity?
Being forced to compete on the same team with or against a convicted pedophile would certainly distract me, and would likely degrade the audience’s experience as well. Seems like a bad thing for sports.
We all get what you’re saying dude. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a distinction. What you’re describing is an indirect effect on competitive integrity, which might be an arbitrary difference for viewers but for the IOC it’s a legitimate distinction.
Great! There is a distinction.
I. Don’t. Care.
Ban the pedos.
I don’t get why this is an argument. Why are we even discussing this? I feel like it should be a given. Question 1 on your Olympic Entry Exam: Have you, as an adult, had sex with someone who did not or could not consent?
You can put every other question about doping and ethics after that one, because if they get hung up on Question 1, they shouldn’t be allowed to represent their country on a national stage. There are others that can answer that question in the negative that can take up the spot for their country.
It doesn’t matter what distinctions there are between doping and fucking kids, we need to, as a species, stop putting pedophiles on pedestals. Don’t buy their albums, don’t watch their movies, and don’t give them medals in the Olympics. They can work the fryer at McDonalds to support their wasted existence.
No one was arguing with you from the beginning. We’re just saying there’s a distinction and the IOC probably views it like that.
I will never understand the 8 downvotes you have. Ban the pedos shouldn’t be controversial.
that’s why I said “directly”. I agree other issues can indirectly undermine the sport as well.
Judging by the fact that smash is still popular, quite a lot, actually.
Let’s ban the Dutch guy, and also the rest of the Dutch, until they reform their horrendous laws there, so that child rapist actually get some kind of punishment, rather than the tiniest slap on the wrist.
Phelps was actually so good that he needed to slow his performance down with bongloads and Subway sandos so people wouldn’t assume he was doping.
And Usain Bolt ate exclusively McDoods Nugs.
Track Star Sha’Carri Richardson had to give up a gold medal after she tested positive for THC following a match.
But then there is no one left.
For a while
All we had to do to get rid of sports was to rigorously attempt to make them fair? Wow. Sports are DAF.
What a hypocrite
Weed is not a performance enhancing drug lol
Oh right I didn’t mean that I mean the PEDs that all top level athletes use
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This from the guy who might as well have been designed in a lab for swimming who argued that trans women should be banned from competing to ensure “a level playing field”.
If you look up the word “hypocrite” in the dictionary, there’s a picture of Michael Phelps.
Nowhere in that article does it mention that he wants them banned, but go ahead and tell me I’m wrong somehow because level playing field equals being banned.
It sounds like he didn’t have an answer but thinks there should be some kind of system in include everyone.
Based on the first part of your comment I’m sure your response will be well thought out and free from derogatory terms.
Nowhere in that article does it mention that he wants them banned, but go ahead and tell me I’m wrong somehow because level playing field equals being banned.
How else do you think he wants a level playing field to be achieved? Hobbling? Strapping weights to trans swimmers? Giving cis women a head start?
Sometimes things are so obvious that they don’t need to be explicitly stated. This is one of those times.
It sounds like he didn’t have an answer but thinks there should be some kind of system in include everyone
So some kind of “separate but equal” bullshit that implicitly labels trans women as not women? Doesn’t sound much better than outright bans tbh…
Based on the first part of your comment I’m sure your response will be well thought out and free from derogatory terms.
Based on your evasive pedantry and unearned condescension, I’m sure you’re going to take anything I say contrary to your arguments into account and not dismiss them out of hand for not coddling bad faith arguments 🙄
He’s a genetic advantage, oh no. He was born tall and broad shoulders with a swimmer’s body. That’s obviously cheating. On a related note LeBron James shouldn’t be allowed to play basketball either. Usain Bolt’s legs were too long he was genetically cheating. Only short fat out of shape people should be allowed to compete.
Actually I’d probably watch that.
He’s a genetic advantage, oh no.
One of the problems with any competitive sport is the fixation on top performance, rather than the appeal of the sport itself. People dope to win, because winning is more important than simply playing well. People dope because they can’t afford to compete without being a top performer, and so we create a monetary incentive to cheat.
Only short fat out of shape people should be allowed to compete.
“Don’t bother even trying, you’re the wrong shape” is a very common and deeply disheartening trend in a whole host of sporting events.
Brother we’re talking about the Olympics. Top performance is the point. The best athletes in the whole world competing at the top of their Sports. Nobody here is under any illusions about why people cheat we all get it. That doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
Top performance is the point
The point is to bring together an international community of athletes in a peaceful cultural exchange.
Handing out medals for ballroom dancing and table tennis is just an excuse to get everyone in the same room together.
Nobody here is under any illusions about why people cheat we all get it. That doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
The enormous monetary incentives around medaling corrupt the spirit of an egalitarian international event.
I’m not saying he’s cheating or shouldn’t have been allowed to compete.
That’s what he’s saying about trans women in spite of he himself having much bigger advantages than any trans woman ever did.
BTW, the rest of your strawman argument aside, Bolt actually has a very atypical build for a sprinter. Most of the best sprinters ever have been of slightly below average height and compact of build.
A former trainer of his put it thusly: “he’s built less like a human sprinter and more like a thoroughbred racing horse” 😄
Oh he’s the only tall broad shoulder swimmer body man who competes in the olympics? I wasn’t aware. I guess all the people I saw this last week who had the exact same body type as him we’re mirages. What absolute nonsense your argument is.
Oh he’s the only tall broad shoulder swimmer body man who competes in the olympics
Obviously not. He has several genetic advantages that other top swimmers don’t, as detailed in the article you clearly didn’t read.
Here’s a short summary:
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He stands tall at 6’4″, which is the ideal height for swimming. The average height of an Olympic finalist in 2016 was 6’2″
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His arm span is 6’7″, 3 inches more than his height. Generally, a person’s arm span is equal to their height, but Phelps is not an ordinary person. This anomalous characteristic gives him an absurd amount of pulling power in the water. Basically, his arms work as powerful propulsive (boat) paddles in a more efficient way than his competitors.
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His upper body is that of a 6 ‘8 “man. With each stroke, he can have amazing reach, pulling him through the water ahead of the competition.
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his lower body is only 5 ’10 “long, which is beneficial as it reduces drag against water.
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Phelps has huge palms that support his paddling ability, essentially acting as flippers
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he also has abnormally large feet with extremely flexible ankles, basically functioning like the tail fin of a shark
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Phelps’s body produces half as much lactic acid as his rivals, significantly shortening his recovery time and allowing him to endure longer swims without slowing down.
Source: Science ABC
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