VeganPizza69 Ⓥ

No gods, no masters.

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  • Efficiency is about physics. You can’t break the laws of physics. Economics are not physics and subsidies can go in many different directions.

    If we plan on using the land to store carbon, to restore ecosystems and biodiversity, then land use and land use intensity will have to decrease, which will mean that we have make sure that land is used to feed people, not to feed food.

    If you’re going to say “waste”, don’t bother. Waste firstly has to be reduced, and we need the rest for compost.

    Your appeal to density works much like the bird CAFOs now in the face of HPAI. You think you’ve figured out a cheat, but, over time, it averages back down.


  • “Economic” depends on the subsidies which exist regardless of the species of those organisms.

    There are many studies on these conversion ratios, I just wanted to point at one that gets into the “waste promise” too.

    Nothing is going to beat eating plants because plants are primary producers of calories, amino-acids, fats.

    What is going to happen, especially in the Western places where meat is in large demand and large supply, is that subsidies for insect farming are going to sustain the usual vertebrate farming.











  • It’s certainly part of the catabolic stage in the system’s decay. Due to many reasons, both at the input side and the “drowning in waste” side (example: GHGs waste causing climate destabilization), growth is going to falter which means that the “sharing” strategy of the rich, of the oligarchs, is going to stop working. You may know it as “grow the pie” (instead of “share the pie”). The rich get richer, the rest get poorer, and there are going to be a lot of poor people. That means a lot of desperate people and a lot of people with nothing left to lose.

    What you have to watch out for is perhaps two strategies that can stop this:

    1. Scapegoating: vulnerable minorities and more. The rich of a certain ethnicity may become the scapegoats, instead of … you know, ALL of that class. This would be a misdirection of attention.
    2. Jingoism, chauvinism and various forms of ultra-nationalism. This would be a misdirection of violence… instead of “punching up”, it becomes “punching the foreign threat”, which means war.
    3. Combined 1 & 2. It’s usually called fascism.

    Something to print:

    On a related note, I really liked the recent season of “Arcane” (both seasons are great). https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11126994/