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    RDJ built the house of MCU, but now he has to maintain it as well? The man was in something like 9 movies over 10 years. He did his bit for king and country. But because too much of post-end game had been low quality, gotta bring back ol’ reliable.

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      Not like pre endgame it was fucking teeming with quality, most of the mcu is watchable once inoffensive, appeal to everyone stuff that’s competently made.

      The only movies i have genuinely wanted to rewatch pre endgame are Thor Ragnarok, Infinity war, and maybe Iron man, that’s it, the rest is just not worth revisiting and even iron man if I never see it again I won’t feel like I missed out.

      Ragnarok i have watched like 4 times and I could rewatch it again, infinity war is really good too and is worth rewatching, endgame is too much fan service moments but still okay.

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        I’ll add Winter Soldier as well. Nice to have a bit of the paranoid spy genre into a Marvel movie.

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          I was watching Agents of shield when that came out so I knew the twist and then I remember it being meh, maybe if I rewatch it it will hold up

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        5 months ago

        For me it’s: Guardians 1 & 2, Iron Man, Homecoming, Winter Soldier, Avengers and the last portion of Endgame

        I’ve yet to rewatch Ragnarok, but I probably should.

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    5 months ago

    I realize that this may be a ridiculous statement but I think this is finally jumping the shark for me…

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      I was one of those fanboys since the start but it lost me around black panther 2. This is one hell of a shark being jumped tho.

      At least its…somewhat…better then bringing Stark back to life somehow?

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      Yeah, I think the new Deadpool definitely was. Trying to avoid spoilers … I did like it but a lot of fan service, cameos, predictable gags …. This was all in previews/reviews … but it doesn’t really stand on its own

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        I believe that’s the Deadpool movies weakness: you’ll barely remember the movie/plot; the cameos are the best part, but they’re really not movies you’d want to watch a second time. You may watch it out of boredome, but that’s it. I watched Deadpool last night and was both entertained and amazed by the cameos, but that’s it.

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    5 months ago

    I’m not deeply familiar with the lore/canon. Is there any instance in the comics that Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom? If not, is this Marvel getting desperate with their waning popularity by trying to bring back RDJ just to straight up play a different character? That’s a new low.

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      Dr. Doom has become Iron Man, so there’s that. In this case it might just be same actor two roles. Remember that Doom wears that mask because his face is all fucked up; it’s likely that they could just have RDJ play the role without any Iron Man connections at all.

      Update: also there’s this: https://youtu.be/5Jv-HopDBV4?si=052HgQB2WQJhtvRT

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        I know little about Marvel, but I guess a Stark from the multiverse may have become Doom instead of Ironman in his timeline.

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      I’m not well versed with lore but “What If: Iron Man: Demon in an Armor” has Tony and Victor swap bodies. It happens when they are younger so they have different paths and that story isn’t the one that is going to be told here, but… technically yes.

      But also keep in mind it’s fine for the MCU to do things a little different. In Multiverse of Madness we was the “Illuminati” in a way similar to existing material, but still wholly unique. Additionally we got characters like Mordo who get new arcs and growth that differs from any existing media

      While I do expect this to be a little desperate on Marvels part, they’re also bringing back the Russo brothers, I think it’s also a way to bring hype back to Marvel and the idea of the multiverse. The future is mutants and Secret Wars will be a great way to get that going so I think we’re going to speedrun it and a cheesy strat like bringing back RDJ is a way to do that.

      In terms of story I don’t think they’re going to ignore that he played Tony Stark/Iron Man. If we’re going to play with the Multiverse (and we are) then a variant of Tony is fair game.

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    5 months ago

    Wait, what? How is this gonna work? Lots of costume or… Is MCU iron man canonically becoming Dr Doom somehow?

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      MCU (616) Tony Stark is dead dead. Pushing up the daisies. Pining for the fjords. Most we might get are flashbacks, alternate versions (until they close up the multiverse thing with the next two Avengers films), and possibly an AI voiced by RDJr in Ironheart.

      This Doom might be an alternate version of Stark, or we might never get to see his face, or we might simply get a “yeah, this is my face, deal with it” lampshade as we got with James Rhodes and are going to get with Thunderbolt Ross.

      (I’m not even convinced he’ll last for more than the two Avengers films… alternate Doom comes to 616 for reasons, does his thing, leaves. Local 616 Doom then doesn’t need much of an introduction, can be played by someone younger and cheaper.)

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    One of the biggest mistakes in my opinion. They sent him off and closed the chapter so well that it was fitting. To rip him back because they’re struggling to make anything half as decent is a cop out and tarnishes the franchise.

    I understand comicbook characters die and come back all the time but the multi generational audience that was apart of that experience can never watch end game again as that emotional good bye to the last decade is now gone.