I mean, he’s not wrong that the app wasn’t ready. Which begs the question why they didn’t un-roll-it-out. >.>

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    Whoever the fuck thought a massive regression for every single customer was the perfect thing to deploy with no option for rollback needs to stop working in software.

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      This isn’t a software problem. It’s a capitalism problem.

      It should be straight up illegal to remove pre-existing functionality from a device, regardless of whether that is present in software or hardware. If you release it on a stable channel, if you advertise it as a feature of a device, you support it for the life of the device. You can test beta features via an entirely separate beta app, but once the feature becomes stable you don’t have a choice anymore. Once you stop supporting the hardware or software, you are required to open source everything required for consumers — as well as any competitor — to pickup where you left off and continue development.

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        If you release it on a stable channel, if you advertise it as a feature of a device, you support it for the life of the device.

        And when support ends you must provide everything necessary for users to have absolute control over the hardware themselves. “Unsupported so it’s trash” is nonsense.

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          Once you stop supporting the hardware or software, you are required to open source everything required for consumers — as well as any competitor — to pickup where you left off and continue development.

          Does this not cover that??

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            You can open source everything and it doesn’t matter if you don’t provide the keys to unlock it.

            You’re going to have to proactively provide tools for users to unlock their devices completely.

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      Yep. It’s impressive, tbh.

      It’s a company that was one of the first to get into “smart xyz” at all, scored big, and since then has shown that they have absolutely not a single clue how to do smart home appliances.

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    They literally wasted all the effort trying to do patent trolling for years, and now their own lineup sucks sick. Who would have expected that

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      That’s the worst part, back when they were new, at least Sonos had a cool USP. Nowadays others do remote access and smart speakers too, and Sonos is still overpriced, still mediocre hardware, and now doesn’t even have a nicely integrated all-in-one-app any more.

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        Kind of just the reality of corporate America. Live long enough until you become a villain

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    It’s easier for me to control my Sonos devices through Home Assistant and dashboards I’ve created, rather than using the Sonos app itself. It’s like they hired some McKinsey consultants to make the app as useless as it can be.

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    Too little, too late. For first month the app was unusable. It took forever to play the music and when it finally got played the missing features made the experience at best mediocre

    I’m not going to stick with Sonos. I have already started lookingfosr a replacement. Audio Pro looks pretty good.

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      Same. For me the final straw was when it started desynchronising from actual progress when playing podcasts, which means every time I pause and resume I’m somewhere else I the episode.

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      You may want to reevaluate your views. For the price there always were much better sounding options. Their main selling point is supposed to be convenience, but with all the software glitches it does not seem like they have it anymore.

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        I personally don’t own one. I work a couple of shifts at a bar that does though, so I’m forced to interact with it. Personally I would never buy or recommend one.

        But in my interaction with the speaker it sounds good, the app just never works. It’s clunky and not user friendly.

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    Every Sonos app sucks. It’s just one of those facts of life.

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    Why can’t they just fix the simple bug of having to open the app ,close it down, then reopen it just to connect to your setup? A simple ‘wait’ line of code would do wonders.

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    I’m lucky that I only have Gen1 products. I kept getting hit with “well don’t you want new features?” And I’m thinking to myself “what features?” This does everything I want. Plays local music, integrates with streaming services, syncs between multiple devices throughout the house.

    And it’s a good thing I can’t upgrade after seeing this whole mess.

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    Hey why don’t we lay off the production people then claim we made a bunch of profit?

    Ridiculous pay package pleeze.

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    I was starting to think there was something wrong with my setup. Glad it wasn’t just me! Hopefully they’ll fix it. Better they be upfront and admit the mistake.

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    Glad I dumped them for $100 HomePod minis. The extra layer of shit just isn’t worth the sound quality, especially since I’m usually listening with headphones.