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    Nah, I don’t use apple devices for watching porn

    Wtf are you asking?

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    I’m a 1. I was today years old when I learned that there are people who can only visualize the outline of an apple, nothing at all, or anything other than a fully 3D rendered apple like in a computer generated image. To answer your question, no I don’t!

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      I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.

      Do you have an internal dialogue? Or is it all visual? Cuz my internal world is basically a lightly illustrated book, 95% dialogue and occasionally I can imagine a vague image.

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        Both internal dialogue which sounds the same as my spoken voice alongside images or videos, similar to when there’s a montage being narrated in a movie is the best way I can explain it. This is all fascinating to me now! Do you dream very often?

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          I only seem to dream if I’m not sleeping well. I can pretty reliably make myself dream by having coffee before bed. Otherwise, nope, there’s just a vague sense that time has passed when I wake up. If I do dream it’s highly visual, though.

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        I can create images, sounds, smells, etc the whole gaumut experience OF an apple in my mind. I almost always go for visual it made up in my mind. Just depends.

        Not the person you were asking, but seems like you’re curious.

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        How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

        It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

        I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

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          How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

          Pretty quick, yeah. It’s basically my voice, but also, I don’t need to breathe or move my mouth or anything. Ever heard the term “stream of consciousness”? Also, grammar and punctuation aren’t necessary, I can just talktalktalktalktalk and I understand myself because I always know what I’m saying.

          I’m sure if you could listen to my thoughts it would sound like a fucking mess tho lol

          But also, there’s a difference between when I’m just thinking about stuff to myself and when I’m busy doing something. If I’m in a flow state or “in the zone”, I don’t necessarily monologue everything I’m doing. I just do it, y’know? It’s only when I slow down to think that my thoughts actually become dialogue again.

          It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

          I can’t imagine why you need to see it! I know I need to lay some mulch on my garden tomorrow, I don’t need to visualize that? I can just make a mental note of it and keep that thought stored away as part of a to-do list. What would I even use pictures for when I can just tell myself “I need to do X, Y, and Z”?

          I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

          Well yeah, consciousness is an illusion. I think they’ve demonstrated with active brain scans that our conscious thoughts come after we’ve already made subconscious decisions. We make up our minds before we know it, consciousness is more like a way we convince ourselves to do the things we’ve already decided we want to do.

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        I’m a 2 on the scale unless i try (I can do 1 but it’s not fast or easy for complex things).

        Visualization isn’t usually an active thing for me. But when you say “think of a car accident” I can visualize one generic car t-boning another on a generic road. If you ask me to describe a room in my house I visualize most of the things there and described based off that visualization.

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          I’m a 3 for memories, a 4 for everything else. Before my head injury I was a 5 for everything (no idea what that’s about lol)

          I can describe a car accident in great detail and draw a picture of it, but in my brain I’m just verbally describing the car accident to myself as if I’m the narrator.

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        For me when I’m daydreaming it’s like watching a movie, my eyes might be open but I don’t see shit, my brain’s doing other things. Or when I’m visualizing something it’s like free and organic AR. But yeah, no dialogue necessary, it’s like a hallucination that I control.

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      right, coz there’s no point if you can make better images in your head, yeah?

      you don’t run into problems like awful actors, or they suddenly introduce a fetish you’re not into

      is that about right?

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        I introduce another option, as I’m much more detailed than even “1.” I can visualise entire scenes with the background and all, along with other sensory experiences such as touch, taste, and smell with complete realism. Very useful being in engineering. I do watch the referenced content, but it’s more to “enrich the dataset” so to speak, just for inspiration and to provide more details to imagine later. Sometimes I’ll just turn it off and go with the fantasy instead.

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    I’m a 1 and yes I do. I can imagine something, but it’s hard to concentrate on something super detailed and fully enjoy myself

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    I’m looking through this thread and the concept behind the picture is 100x more fascinating to me than the actual question. Is the number your maximum capability?

    I’d estimate I go through the majority (90℅?) of each day at like a 4 bordering on 5, but at times I’ll move up to 2. It’s a pretty seamless transition, I don’t really have an explanation for why it only happens every so often. It’s not like it’s exclusively reserved for moments where it’s more useful.

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    I’m a 1, and yes I watch porn to collect “materials” to concoct the most perfect porn in my head that no one has seen and will never see.

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      It’s meant to roughly gauge how clearly you picture things in your mind’s eye by asking you which apple you see when prompted to imagine one. #5 references the lack of a mind’s eye in people with Aphantasia (coincidentally this Wikipedia article has this same chart as a header image)

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    I’m 1 and watch every day, though i read many books too, so everything balances out, also my work requires a lot of improvisation that makes you think on problem solving, so positive impact is bigger

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        I “see” symbolic representations. They’re rich and infused with all the physical senses with computational gestalt union. These words fall so much short to what I think I experience though

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    :( You just made me realize I’m only a 3 and I’m missing out on color mode. This hurts.

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      Just in case you’re worried that you’re locked in – you’re not. Abstain from listening to music, watching TV, and consuming media for a week or two, and watch your brain literally glitter into life to provide you with entertainment.

      If you want a more short-term solution: waking up after lack of sufficient sleep, and wandering to the bathroom in half-sleep mode should put you in a state of mind where it’s easy to “hear” a desired song playing in your head.

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          no, you hinted that you were stuck as a 3, and I’m telling you that it’s not fixed.

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            So when I was a child and these things didn’t exist and I wasn’t watching screens, why was it exactly the same? Why has it been the exact same at every stage of my life never weaker nor stronger? I’m just trying to get at the point that you’re full of shit and probably pulled that straight out of your own ass.

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              This is a public discussion. I was offering my two cents on how you or others could better their position on visualisation. I don’t quite understand where the hostility is coming from, but you coming back with your own two cents on being hard-wired naturally means that my advice does not apply to you.

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          One thing I’m learning from this thread is maybe some people can visualise but it takes them effort?

          Strange to imagine minds that are not one’s own.

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            I mean for me it’s like a checklist. But it goes by fast. Like I’ll list the characteristics and then apply them to a kind of “3D model” in my head.

            Or I’ll just use past objects from my memory. I’ve seen lots of apples in my life, lol.

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              I mean for me it’s like a checklist. But it goes by fast. Like I’ll list the characteristics and then apply them to a kind of “3D model” in my head.

              This sounds familiar.

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    I’m definitely a 1, and generally I don’t. I do, however, really like interactive fiction in both work safe and non work safe contexts. I think I really enjoy being able to visualize it in my mind more than I do watching it.

    I’m not sure if it factors into your pet theory, but I’m asexual so the appeal of physical forms is also very lost on me. That’s a different can of worms that I’m happy to open if interested, but I’ll leave it be if not.