• 🐋 Color 🍁 ♀@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    I’m a 1. I was today years old when I learned that there are people who can only visualize the outline of an apple, nothing at all, or anything other than a fully 3D rendered apple like in a computer generated image. To answer your question, no I don’t!

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      I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.

      Do you have an internal dialogue? Or is it all visual? Cuz my internal world is basically a lightly illustrated book, 95% dialogue and occasionally I can imagine a vague image.

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        Both internal dialogue which sounds the same as my spoken voice alongside images or videos, similar to when there’s a montage being narrated in a movie is the best way I can explain it. This is all fascinating to me now! Do you dream very often?

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          I only seem to dream if I’m not sleeping well. I can pretty reliably make myself dream by having coffee before bed. Otherwise, nope, there’s just a vague sense that time has passed when I wake up. If I do dream it’s highly visual, though.

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        I can create images, sounds, smells, etc the whole gaumut experience OF an apple in my mind. I almost always go for visual it made up in my mind. Just depends.

        Not the person you were asking, but seems like you’re curious.

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        I’m a 2 on the scale unless i try (I can do 1 but it’s not fast or easy for complex things).

        Visualization isn’t usually an active thing for me. But when you say “think of a car accident” I can visualize one generic car t-boning another on a generic road. If you ask me to describe a room in my house I visualize most of the things there and described based off that visualization.

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          I’m a 3 for memories, a 4 for everything else. Before my head injury I was a 5 for everything (no idea what that’s about lol)

          I can describe a car accident in great detail and draw a picture of it, but in my brain I’m just verbally describing the car accident to myself as if I’m the narrator.

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        How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

        It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

        I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

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          How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

          Pretty quick, yeah. It’s basically my voice, but also, I don’t need to breathe or move my mouth or anything. Ever heard the term “stream of consciousness”? Also, grammar and punctuation aren’t necessary, I can just talktalktalktalktalk and I understand myself because I always know what I’m saying.

          I’m sure if you could listen to my thoughts it would sound like a fucking mess tho lol

          But also, there’s a difference between when I’m just thinking about stuff to myself and when I’m busy doing something. If I’m in a flow state or “in the zone”, I don’t necessarily monologue everything I’m doing. I just do it, y’know? It’s only when I slow down to think that my thoughts actually become dialogue again.

          It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

          I can’t imagine why you need to see it! I know I need to lay some mulch on my garden tomorrow, I don’t need to visualize that? I can just make a mental note of it and keep that thought stored away as part of a to-do list. What would I even use pictures for when I can just tell myself “I need to do X, Y, and Z”?

          I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

          Well yeah, consciousness is an illusion. I think they’ve demonstrated with active brain scans that our conscious thoughts come after we’ve already made subconscious decisions. We make up our minds before we know it, consciousness is more like a way we convince ourselves to do the things we’ve already decided we want to do.

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        For me when I’m daydreaming it’s like watching a movie, my eyes might be open but I don’t see shit, my brain’s doing other things. Or when I’m visualizing something it’s like free and organic AR. But yeah, no dialogue necessary, it’s like a hallucination that I control.

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      right, coz there’s no point if you can make better images in your head, yeah?

      you don’t run into problems like awful actors, or they suddenly introduce a fetish you’re not into

      is that about right?

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        I introduce another option, as I’m much more detailed than even “1.” I can visualise entire scenes with the background and all, along with other sensory experiences such as touch, taste, and smell with complete realism. Very useful being in engineering. I do watch the referenced content, but it’s more to “enrich the dataset” so to speak, just for inspiration and to provide more details to imagine later. Sometimes I’ll just turn it off and go with the fantasy instead.