• N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Witness video shows Dvontaye Mitchell, 43, lying on the ground and crying for help outside the Hyatt Regency hotel as security guards pin him down with their hands and knees. Mitchell can be heard grunting and yelling apologies.

    What makes people like this? What kind of disease infects their minds that makes them capable of doing this to a fellow human being? That’s not just standard racism. It’s inhuman.

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      A lot of time, the justification to dehumanize comes from the news media, a religious figure, or some close relationships. Treating someone like they’re subhuman is a cultural thing, and people who do it do so with the understanding that they can “get away” with it because they have safety in numbers

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      Psychopathy is shockingly common. Technically, only 5% of people are full-blown psychopaths, but like all brain disorders it’s a spectrum, and everyone falls somewhere on that spectrum. At least 30% of the population exhibits sub-diagnostic psychopathic traits, such as an indifference to lying or a lack of moral compunction.

      What people don’t understand about psychopathy is that it presents as an indifference (or an unresponsiveness) to empirical and normative facts. That is why psychopaths just do whatever feels good (which might include tormenting others), why they might be obsessed with money or power other pleasure-oriented goals.

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    Check out how news orgs are covering this story.

    Associated Press: “Milwaukee hotel employees fired after death of Black man who was pinned to the ground”

    NBC: “Video shows Black man being pinned down by Milwaukee hotel security shortly before death”

    CBS: “Milwaukee hotel workers fired after death of Black man pinned down outside”

    ABC: “Al Sharpton to deliver eulogy for Black man who died after being held down by Milwaukee hotel guards”

    CNN: “A Black man died after he was pinned to the ground by security guards at a Milwaukee hotel. Now his family wants answers”

    Fox 6 Milwaukee: “Hyatt Regency Milwaukee death; man’s family gathers outside hotel”

    Fox News: “”

    These are the earliest stories posted by each outlet that I could find. The headlines speak volumes. The local Fox affiliate omits the fact that the man was black in the headline, and Fox News has yet to acknowledge it even happened, which was 12 days ago (June 30). I’m sure they’ll get around to it, though.

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      Fox news is probably hard at work trying to find pictures of him on social media with a gun, or drugs, or anything that gives them the “he was no angel” narrative

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        Literally. This isn’t even a joke, I guarantee there are people doing this as we speak.

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          yeah i wasn’t making a joke either, they do this every time, the fact that they haven’t reported on this just indicates to me they haven’t found anything yet

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      All of them seem to be using the passive voice to. They should say something akin to “Video shows security guard pinning and killing black man.”

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          Using an active voice is perfectly fine. The standard practice is to use the term alleged if there is a possible crime. Saying “Security guard pins black man and man dies” is absolutely fine.

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          Hence why it was so incredibly satisfying to get the ruling on George Floyd, and henceforth officially refer to it as “the police murder of George Floyd” - a lot of people will even forcefully correct anyone that tries to refer to it as ‘tragic death’ or ‘accidental death’.

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            I was thinking along the same lines… but I don’t think I’d want anyone to be able to publicly label me a killer if it hasn’t been proven yet that I actually killed a person. Maybe there was a second person who actually did it and bailed before the cops showed up and this person was wrong place, wrong time. Not even saying that’s the case in this example (probably isn’t), but we still need to treat it the same as any other.

            Manslaughter hasn’t been proven yet either; until they’re convicted, it’s all “alleged.”

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      Have you heard about the guy who police poked gently several times in the head with copper clad lead rods? He actually fell tragically to his death.

      Then there was another instance where a guy fell asleep forever right after cops made big noises coming from their hands.

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    hotel guards

    What the actual fucking fuck is wrong with your society that you need fucking hotel guards?

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      Hotels/inns/taverns having dedicated security is pretty universal since like always? I’m not defending what happened here in any way, but balking at the idea security guards in general feels almost hilariously naive.

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        Hotels/inns/taverns having dedicated security is pretty universal

        Well you must live in a different universe to the rest of us then, cos I’ve never seen one in my entire life

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          Again, hilariously naive. “I’ve never seen one so they must not exist!”

          Also I think you’re hearing ‘guard’ and thinking something adjacent to uniformed, armed police. Which is not the case. Think bouncer at a bar, not mall cops with guns.

          And if you’re dismayed that society has become ‘so fucked up’ that we need security measures in places where lots of people from disparate backgrounds gather and share a roof. I’m sorry but you’ve missed the boat by a few thousand years.

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            The society I live in doesn’t have them, and being a well travelled gent, I’ve never seen a bouncer anywhere except a club.

            Don’t accuse society of being “so fucked up” when it’s just a tiny, tiny percentage of the planet

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              You literally started this entire exchange with calling society fucked up enough to need security at a hotel. You are a human being on the planet earth, your society has them, our society has them and has for a very long time. If you’re going to refuse actually engaging in the subject of discussion and just say ‘nuh uh’ over and over, we’re done here.

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                My society doesn’t have them. No society I’ve ever visited needed them.

                What is it about yours that a) you need them, and b) you think they’re ubiquitous when they most definitely aren’t?

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        Hmmm maybe in America?

        In Canada I can’t remember the last (or first) time I saw a rent a cop in a hotel

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      What fancy country are you from?

      Hell, I was just down in Ecuador and the 7-11s had armed security guards… usually more than one.

      The hotels had armed soldiers, with rifles.

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    Like the case in Kent, WA a few weeks ago where a Ln off work security guard murdered a teen who was returning an airsoft pistol to a sporting goods store because he thought he was going to rob the place. He is being charged with murder. It should be no surprise that the victim had brown skin which likely played into why the guy thought he was going to rob the place. I’m sure the guy wanted to be the good guy and save the day but he had access to a gun and became a murderer instead.

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      We should never assume the best in cases of homicide. The cops have taught us that quite clearly. Maybe he wanted to be a hero, or maybe he wanted an excuse to shoot someone and took the first chance he got.