• Teknikal@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    I find it kinda funny Sony tried so hard to own the standard so many times thought they eventually got it but then the Internet made it irrelavent almost instantly.

    I don’t like Sony.

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      Am with you. Their midrange phones still have headphone jacks, though. I like that.

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        Yeah their phones do generally still do things like microsds etc which is very nice I also like the psp but I’ve bought so many Sony products that develop weird faults straight after the warranty and the fact they alway push propriety cards etc.

        Its a weird company where divisions seem to actively sabotage each other I just don’t trust them at all.

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        Sony phones are pretty great for stuff like this tbh

        • MicroSD

        • dual SIM

        • headphone jacks (this is despite Sony being one of the biggest names in Bluetooth audio and therefore more likely to benefit from getting rid of 3.5mm)

        • they stuck to notification LEDs longer than anybody (sadly stopped on their newest gen IIRC?

        • dedicated 2-stage camera shutter buttons

        • no notch, no hole punch

        • stereo, front-facing speakers

        • first to embrace water resistance on smartphones

        • an OS that doesn’t treat you like a complete baby. It shows some relatively advanced options in the settings app and actually explains what they mean and why you’d want to use them. I appreciate that.

        • shockingly FOSS friendly, even going as far as providing bootable AOSP builds on their GitHub, as well as contributing more to AOSP code than anybody other than Google themselves, despite being a niche OEM. A lot of the battery optimisations in Android are actually a Sony contribution, for example.

        There’s a few things that suck. They need to extend their software support, their naming is dreadful (yes I know it follows the camera division naming, it’s still dumb), and they try to charge Apple/Samsung prices despite not being in the same dominant market position. But overall their Xperia division actually puts out some good stuff IMO.

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          (this is despite Sony being one of the biggest names in Bluetooth audio and therefore more likely to benefit from getting rid of 3.5mm)

          What’s fun about that is the bluetooth sucks in many experia phones. So if someone wanted to use a bluetooth device they’d be better off just getting a new phone. My friend has fun with his Tesla where his wife has to turn bluetooth off on her phone before they get in otherwise the car will only connect to her phone and not load his profile/get angry if she gets out.

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              Nah I’ve had the same exact issue with my Xperia 5 iv and my Sony(!) car stereo. If there are other options to connect it will disconnect from my phone and connect to the other one

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                It might suck with everything else. And Bluetooth is a pretty junk “standard”.

                But not letting you pick a connection is 100% the fault of the car.

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    I’ve never had a need to burn a blu-ray. When bd-r’s hit the scene with their obscenely priced recording drives, it was only maybe a year or two before flash memory had already become cheap and fast enough that any volume of data large enough to justify a BD was better served on a 16/32gb thumbdrive unless it needed to be distributed in volume, and I’ve never needed to make enough identical copies of something to justify the $200-$300 that the first drives cost.

    It sucks losing an option but I actually doubt most anyone will notice. 3rd party manufacturers will keep making disc’s for a while anyway, Sony is far from the only company doing this technology.

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      5 months ago

      I use archival blurays for cheap, deep storage for decade plus usage, not something I’d trust to flash memory or even a hard drive. Tape is an option of course but that’s pricey.

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    Don’t fret, Verbatim will still be making recordable BD-Rs. However, this will mean that there will be no more 128GB BD-Rs, we’ll be stuck with only 100GB BD-Rs (Sony is the only company that makes 128GB Blu-rays).

    I recently ordered a pack of 128GBs from Japan. I’d recommend you do the same, because the prices are gonna skyrocket.

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        5 months ago

        Backing up personal data, mostly stuff from my childhood that is irreplacable. Sure, I could just put them on a HDD, but then I’d have to replace it every 5-10 years. Data stored on Blu-ray can last a long time.

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          Data on hard drives also generally lasts a long time. Much longer than 5-10 years.

          And make sure you’re constantly monitoring those discs, disc rot is very much a thing for all optical medica.

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              Rated for, but that doesn’t mean they’re all actually manufactured to that standard.

              CDs were rated for like 50+ years originally I think. We found out real quick that was an optimistic number, especially when you buy the cheapest thing around.

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                The international organization for standardization has rated them for archival use in the hundreds of years. This is not a maybe and the Wikipedia page/link I shared above goes over the testing methodology

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                  “Archival use” means a commercial climate controlled environment. Not a plastic tub in your basement or garage.

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            Assuming the drive spins back up after being left in a cupboard for 15 years, if you’re still even able to find a computer compatible with whatever cables it used back then. But yeah.

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              Whose to say you’d have a computer compatible with the disc and the drive in 15 years?

              And even if the platters are irreparably stuck you could go to a data recovery service and still pull the files off that way.

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              If proper SATA ever goes away, I’d wager that there will still be SATA-to-USB adapters on sale. Heck, people still find ways to connect floppy drives to their modern PCs.

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      5 months ago

      Will this mean PS5 games in coming years would come in two disks?

      Update: never mind they were always using 100 gb

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    5 months ago

    I really wish there was a viable alternative for physical backups. Blu-ray just doesn’t have enough storage space, tape is expensive, and hard drives need to be periodically read.

    I’ve read about holographic WORM media, but I just don’t think there’s enough consumer demand for the hardware and media to ever be as affordable as blu-ray.

    Once upon a time, I could back up all my important data to a stack of DVD-Rs. How am I supposed to back up a 100TB NAS, though? The “best” alternative is to build a second NAS for backup, but that’s approaching tape drive levels of cost.

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    This is just blank writable discs, movies and TV shows on bluray will continue to be produced… for now.

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      As long as there are people for whom streaming compression isn’t acceptable, there’ll be a market for Bluray movies/TV shows.

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    25GB and 50GB disks written at blistering 10MB/s in the age of 100MB/s Gigabit Internet connected to storage (S3, Backblaze, etc. etc.) means that networks have completely obsoleted Blu Rays.

    I’m surprised they still found a use of these things. Flash drives are also so much cheaper, faster, and more convenient.

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      One TB capacity in a sd micro flash disk equivalent to twenty Blu-ray discs at 50GB, just no comparison in the growth of technology.

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    Good. Flash storage is everywhere now. Why go through an extra layer of proprietary hardware and DRM when you can have direct access to the video files which can be read on any platform?

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      The DRM is extra awful with bluray, its usefullness is dipressingly lmited. Being propriatary makes it worthless as an archive medium.

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        Uhm sorry to rain on your parade, but all the cool people made fun of Maxwell guys back then. Our Nakamichi ‘gons got fed TDK exclusively…

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    I mean, as long as there is a hard copy archive option out there this is ok (cloud is already flirting with copyblight).

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    Damn, the end of an era. I wonder how anime will be sold in Japan now if not on Blu-rays?

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        Okay yep, I am too tired two days in a row.

        I thought it was all Blu-ray’s, not just recordable (re-recordable?) ones.

        I thought it meant that like, yeah Blu-ray’s in general are being phased out.

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      I use BD-R for archival storage of important files. They’re cheaper and easier than tape as well as small. I burn them in triplicate and throw them in the same case and as long as the same 3 bits don’t corrupt I can recover. The shelf life on a blue ray sealed and stored well is a few decades which is better than most other media.

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        I understand that from a business perspective, but I’m having a hard time rationalizing it for personal use.

        I guess, if you’re doing a lot of video editing and you want to preserve a large personal library? Idk.

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          It’s mostly family photos and videos. I’ve become the de facto family digital archivist. Some digital copies of important phyiscal records. When you convert files to lossless/uncompressed formats suitable for long term storage they get large really quickly.

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      How often do you lend your drives to your friends? A cheap way to send big files without internet connection was paramount for sharing information.

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        Very rarely. I tend to have shared text or Excel files to actively share and work on. Nothing in the hundreds of gigs.