I think allergy suffers already have known this for years… The stuff that works is locked up because it can be used to make meth…
Yes, it’s pseudoephedrine that you want. Somewhat ironic that Sudafed got its brandname from it, but you can’t easily get the original version anymore.
Edited: corrected for availibility of the Sudafed - thanks Blue and Cubby.
You can still get it, you have to go to the pharmacy in the back and give your ID though. Limited to like 5 packs a month which is more than plenty unless you’re making meth with it
It’s easy to hire lots of people to buy their allotment and give it to you.
Probably in the minority here but I didn’t know that Benadryl straight up doesn’t work as a decongestant. It knocks me the fuck out though, so I wonder if it’s effective at making you drowsy as shit and not much else.
The person you replied to was talking about pseudoephedrine, which is marketed as a decongestant. And boy does it get the job done.
Benedryl (diphenhydramine), on the other hand, is an anti-histimine and it absolutely works for allergic reactions. That said, it’s also marketed as a sleep aid (take a look at the active chemical in things like “ZZZQuil” or drug store brand “sleep aid,” and compare it to the one in Benedryl. Same chemical), and believe me, it works very well for that.
I dunno if I would use it as a decongestant.
Yep I mixed up the ingredients lists. I don’t know if I’ve ever even tried sudafed PE.
Any backyard chemsit can make meth if they are skilled enough
Nile Red likely has the capability of doing that
Nile Red is more than a backyard chemist lol he has a lab
Representatives for the Consumer Healthcare Products Association, a group that represents OTC drug manufacturers, did not offer any new evidence to counter the FDA’s claims that the drug is ineffective during their presentation Monday.
The group instead said that if oral phenylephrine were not available over the counter, it would be a significant burden to consumers.
But it doesn’t work! Consumers are literally using something that’s no better than the naturopathic bullshit found in the next aisle over!
MAN I hate corporate lobbyists. Outright lying to try and save face.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” -Upton Sinclair
Lol, thinking that the naturopathic shit isnt sitting on the same shelves with almost identical packaging to real medicine.
Burden to consumers = burden to our profits for selling useless bullshit
it would be a significant burden to
consumersour share prices
Super interestingly, in clinical trials it is less effective than the placebo.
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Pseudoephedrine definitely works though right?
Yeah man you gotta go to the counter and sign a log book to get the good stuff, thanks methheads. Don’t fall for the PE version on the shelves, that’s a noob trap.
Not the methheads fault. It’s the politicians who want to punish the methheads fault.
Yes. I have a few months a year where I have to get some type of decongestant and the most cost effective is generic Pseudoephedrine. It works. My mother bought me phenylephrine a few times when I was younger and it just didn’t do anything. Not surprised about this article one bit.
It works very well in my experience
I graduated pharmacy school 8 years ago. This was a thing that was taught in school. This is why you should talk to your pharmacist. Guaifenisin is another ‘garbage drug’ that does virtually nothing; just drink more water
Guaifenisin seems to clear my chest congestion up pretty quickly. If I’m placeboing myself, then lalalala I’m not listening.
omg are you serious? I always felt like sudafed PE didn’t do much but I thought mucinex helped a bunch with sinus congestion. now I’m here not sure if anything is real.
Edit for those interested: “extended-release guaifenesin was found to have no effect on all 3 patient-related outcome markers analyzed as measured by the Daily Cough and Phlegm Diary, Spontaneous Symptom Severity Assessment score, and the Wisconsin Upper Respiratory Symptom Survey.”
Edit again with more: “The greatest effects of treatment with guaifenesin/pseudoephedrine were observed for nasal congestion and sinus headache. Time to overall relief was shorter with guaifenesin/pseudoephedrine (P = 0.038). Significantly more patients reported “the medication was helping during the day” on Day 2 with guaifenesin/pseudoephedrine (P = 0.002). Patient assessments of symptom relief showed a significant preference for guaifenesin/pseudoephedrine versus placebo”
I’m with the others. Guaifenisin seems to work pretty well. Even on it’s own. And I’m a major skeptic.
Not as well as pseudoephedrine or ibuprofen or acetaminophen, but it’s definitely better than dextromethorphan.
I can’t even pretend to believe that last one does anything. Well, I think idiots use it to get high in a scary way.
Guaifenisin is definitely not a garbage drug, it’s very effective for me in ways that prove it works.
what does it do? I honestly dont know, I havent looked it up.
just to say, you taking it and believing it has an effect is not proof. large, well regulated, double blind studies are proof.
if you take it and it does something for you thats good and all you need to know, but it aint proof.
thats reaaaal similar to people who took Ivermectin when they had covid who recovered from covid and say “thats proof Ivermectin cures covid”
It thins out mucus. The fact that it works very well for me is absolutely proof that it works. I started taking it on recommendation from my doctor. Please explain to me how this is at all analagous to people taking horse ivermectin after doctors denied giving them a prescription?
Edit to add: guaifenisin is the main ingredient in Mucinex, to those who aren’t familiar
lots of doctors gave, and are still giving out ivermeticin on prescription. just the ones who ignore the clinical evidence.
look I’m not saying it doesnt seem to work for you. I’m saying one person taking any med and seeing results is not “proof”, other than for yourself, but thats really all you need to worry about so it doesnt matter.
Guaifenisin aka Mucinex is an FDA approved drug. Maybe you should look it up since you clearly don’t know anything about it? Or just take the word of a stranger on the Internet who says they went to pharmacy school eight years ago
hey, I wasnt taking anyone’s word for anything. I was only saying one person’s experience isn’t proof, and I stand by that.
I do owe you an apology though, it was late at night and I misunderstood- I confused guaifenisin with phenylephrine, so we were talking about different things which was totally my fault
It’s crazy that enough people think this crap works that it’s a billion dollar industry…
I’m near certain that the companies that sell this useless crap are quite aware of how useless it is.
Placebo effect is a real thing. Plus, if it just clears up a bit on its own, you might contribute it to the medicine.
My NP told me to avoid this stuff and just hand over my Photo ID at the back to get the real pseudoephedrine.
Yup, the good stuff is always that 20mg-30mg psedoephedraline they give you the third degree over buying. Worth it.
I keep both the 4 hour and the 12 hour time-released versions at home. There’s no substitute. I’ll gladly spend a few extra minutes at the pharmacy counter to obtain it.
not a huge fan of the 12 hour ones, but take them myself at times. Still, it just seems, at least to me that the 4 hour doses just work better.
Maybe I’m a lightweight, but pseudoephedrine makes me feel weird. I can’t put my finger on it, but maybe a bit jittery and kind of cold. Also hyper - like I’ll want to do chores when I take it
Works better than anything else for my colds, but it also makes me feel odd so I avoid it unless I’m feeling super trash.
It’s basically watered down meth. It’s no joke! That said, it doesn’t make me feel bad at all but everyone’s different and it is a powerful drug.
I could have guessed that. Pseudophedrine works great. You just have to ask for it behind the counter because of the whole meth thing.
You know what’s weird? I get severe sinus headaches and regular pseudoenepherine sudafed doesn’t help at all, but these phelylephrine ones do. I’ll even tell my wife “the little reds, not the whites”. Weird.
The real pseudoephedrines are also little red pills, at least where I am on the US East Coast.
Weird, here in my area of California the OTC ones are the reds, you have to go to the pharmacist for the white ones.
In my area both are red unless you get the 12-hour controlled-release caplets, those are white. It’s probably just different factories.
It depends on the dosage. The 4hr pseudoephedrine are red. The 12hr are white.
In my area the red ones are the pseudophedrine ones. Never seen the white ones, I just go to the counter because I am not making meth.
Weird, there are what I get in northern California
This explains why this weekend taking this shit did nothing at all for me
I’m with you that it doesn’t work.
Pseudoephedrine, however, does work.
Just sign your live away and get the real stuff.
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Melinda’s is the shitty, stolen, knock off version of Marie Sharpe’s.
In any case, yep habaneros will do that to you.
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Well, at least I was right about what I always suspected.
And in other news water is just dihydrogen monoxide
I rely on pharmaceuticals for multiple problems, and they are very effective, but my god we are being scammed by pharmaceutical companies in so many ways.
