• Paragone@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Ah, but the difference

    Yehoshua “Jesus” ( Iosa, actually, according to a Roman friend I had ) benJoseph was:

    • falsely-convicted
    • by legalists
    • whom benJoseph had consistently shown to be hypocrites, &
    • they were using legalism to convict him, to get even with him.

    Trump, however, admitted in court that “Mother Theresa couldn’t beat these charges” or something like that:

    Trump was convicted:

    • fair & square
    • honestly,
    • of actual-crimes
    • he himself committed.

    “Just like Jesus” my arse.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      He was not falsely convicted.

      Jesus claimed to be a king. The Roman’s took that literally. He was given a chance by Pilate to recant, and doubled down.

      That’s what he was executed for (Rebellion, inciting insurrection. All that nastiness.)

      Sure, his followers took it metaphorically, but he had an opportunity and doubled down on it.

      Sure the mainstream jews wanted him dead because he was (in point of fact, yet another) mystic running a cult, and it was stiring up the common sorts enough they were having problems.

      The Pharisees would have knifed him and left it at that, But the romans were getting a little irritated with all the dead bodies being left around- untidy that. The Roman’s cracked down on that sort of thing, so they had to have him tried in Roman courts for breaking Roman laws. Pity he made it so easy.

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        6 months ago

        they both “incited insurrection” o_o;

        huh.

        except trump did it literally and jesus did it metaphorically.

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          Not how the Roman’s saw it. Saying “I am king of the Jews” was tantamount to rebellion against the Roman Empire.

          It’s the kind of thing that gets people killed.

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      6 months ago

      Also not to mention that as a Roman province, Judea couldn’t execute anyone without the Romans’ permission. So they sent Jesus to the Romans and the Romans were like “WTF this guy is innocent” but the Jews were like “Yeah but we still want to kill him”. Then the Romans were like “Okay, how about I give you the choice of freeing either this innocent man or this convicted murderer” and the Jews were like “Free the murderer and kill him”. Then the Romans were like “Fine, we’re literally washing our hands of whatever happens but you do you boo” and the Jews were like “Yay, now all the threats to our religious dogma are gone!” and nothing bad happened to them ever again.

      Yep, that’s exactly the same as Trump going before a court, having evidence presented against him, having a defense presented for him, and having a jury of his peers decide on the evidence. The parallels are obvious 🙄