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    So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.

    As usual, it’s okay with they do it.

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        Literally everything. They’re afriad of Land Back because they fear the Native peoples will take the land the same way the founders of America took it. They’re afraid of equality because they think when Black people do better it must mean they themselves will be worse off because they cant imagine wealth without exploitation, the way they used to make wealth for themselves.

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        It’s kind of wild actually. When Trump talks about this case being “fixed,” and the judge as being “corrupt,” he’s telling us exactly what’s going on in his other trial with Trump appointee and person with no prior trial experience (if I recall correctly) before being appointed to her seat on (looks at notes) huh, the “United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida.”

        Wait a second…

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        And if they make that argument, I’ll tell them that means they believe people are “guilty until proven innocent” and don’t deserve a trial by a jury of their peers, which is as unAmerican an idea as you can get.

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          Not going to be useful. They don’t want a democracy, they don’t want a justice system. They want a king and the ability to use state power to shit on other people.

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            Trust me, I am in Indiana. I’m surrounded by these flag-waving morons. You call them unAmerican and they lose their shit. And all I have to do is pull up the Bill of Rights.

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              I love getting called a liberal pussy by civilian clowns that have never served a day. Pretty sure the government trained me to kill.

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        No, according to DJT, “very innocent”, which is as reassuring as “a little bit pregnant”.

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    Funny how they’re calling for riots instead of going to the streets and rioting.
    I wonder if they remember what happened to them the last time they tried that shit 🤔.

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      Pepperidge farm remembers. The crowd that was all about “back(ing) the blue” managed to kill a police officer and four of themselves.

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      There are a lot of armchair generals on the Internet. Unfortunately not limited to the Republican side of things.

      But the Republican ones tend to be bigger hypocrites since they usually condemn rioting when anyone else does it, especially if they aren’t white.

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      ?

      These are likely the same ones that pushed 1/6 and spent a lot of time telling people to do it.

      The reason they’re still doing that, is they weren’t the ones to actually show up.

      They’re not gonna stop doing it, because they didn’t get any consequences from last time.

      All they gotta do is keep making these posts saying someone should do something. And chances are some idiots will do it.

      Like, remember that main old guy from American History X?

      He got naive kids to do the dirty work, so he was able to spend decades doing it without any consequences.

      For real life example, just look at Alex Jones. How long it took for him to even go to court, and how he’s still not in jail or paying any judgements.

      But he’s still running his mouth and telling others to do the work.

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      This was abundantly clear to everyone on January 6th. It was so blatant that, at the time, most conservatives claimed the entire event was actually undercover BLM and “Antifa”.

      Then the convictions showed it truly was all Trump supporters, and now none of them are talking about it.

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    These morons want a king. Can’t even reflect for 5 seconds and think the guilty verdict is because he committed a crime.

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      They are absolutely delusional. I went to the cesspool that is /r/conservative, hoping, PRAYING for people to respond like normal human beings on reading news like that.

      Nope.

      None of this.

      Complete delusion, with select quotes:

      “He still has my vote”

      “Liars! Liars on the witness stand. This poor man does not deserve this”

      Americans are a different breed altogether.

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        Nah, they’re Confederates. This is the South trying to rise again, as they always said they would. They cannot be allowed to.

        The South must rise anew.

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            They’re not just in the South anymore either. They probably wouldn’t admit they want a king, even though you’re right. But it’s the same movement regardless. They are the children of the Confederacy, attempting to bring it back.

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    I looked at /r/conservative last night and it was not good for my mental health. Thousands of commenters all agree it was a sham trial that he will win on appeal and that this will only earn him votes.

    The last two things, they may be right about and that’s terrifying.

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      My favorite is the ones crying about how America has fallen into nazism because… Trump got convicted of a crime with overwhelming evidence of it.

      And its especially funny considering how down with nazism they have been until its conversationally convenient to suddenly cry about the evil nazi persecution.

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      At least he can only appeal all the at to the State Supreme Court so the fedsoc six can’t fuck with it.

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        He’ll try to get it to the us supreme court though, probably arguing that because the fraud was on a us election it’s a federal matter.

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      They move the goalpost at every turn.

      I remember when they said he’d win big in 2020. I remember when they said he wouldn’t be indicted. Next it’s some other silly line in the sand. They’re not exactly great prognosticators.

      They call it a sham but I ask, where is the proof? There is, of course, zero.

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      I haven’t been to that sub, but is there any way to estimate how many there are Russian operatives or bots? I’m guessing this conviction will be fertile fodder for encouraging uprisings amongst Trumpies.

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      Yeah, what’s been going on this whole time with Trump is gaslighting. It’s extremely bad for all of our mental health.

      Our nation is sick, and the first bit of medicine we need is some semblance of justice for one of the most renown white collar criminals to ever hit the American spotlight:

      Trump must be published for his crimes. If he is not, then America and the entire world is at risk of destabilizatiom.

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        I would agree with you. It is quite shocking to read conservative opinions on this though. None of them have a fucking clue what he did wrong but they’re all sure it was rigged.

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      He’s not going to win on appeal unless the case gets moved to Canon’s district.

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    At what point do we consider Trump voters as terrorists? Waiting until they actually kill people or destroy everything doesn’t sound like a good idea.

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      Voters? Never.

      Supporters who organize to commit acts of terror like shutting down local libraries via threats of violence? Now. We should be doing that now.

      I didn’t fight shit heads in Iraq just to have more shit heads do it here.

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          Yeah I know. We knew when they announced Bremer’s orders. Then we got home and found out just how much lying went into starting the war and it became obvious they wanted a forever war. If they had won the election in 2008 they would have found some way to destabilize Iraq again, not knowing ISIS was just around the corner.

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      Didn’t they march inside some important government building and try to overthrow an election at some point?

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        They’ve also interrupted public life with threats of violence related to their religion and politics. They have been past the line for awhile and any vet who dealt with the reality of terror campaigns over seas can recognize this trajectory. If we don’t start enforcing this stuff soon we’re going to have our own version of Al Qaida policing our lives.

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          I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities.

          The police will not protect you, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

          Iran was a secular, liberal monarchy until almost 1980 when they (mostly) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

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            It’s hard for me to recommend that because what most people don’t know is the political violence in Iraq reached levels that would have been a civil war if not for the coalition’s presence. And having watched that level of violence once in my life I’m really hoping we can elect someone that puts the government to work stopping this violent far right theocracy movement. On the other hand I can’t in good faith deny anyone the basic tools I had to defend myself in that situation. I just know that every gun in the mix makes violence more likely and violence only begets more violence. If this kicks off we’ll need a real focus on deprogramming and welcoming people back into the normal population. The zero tolerance approach just doesn’t work, you can’t shoot an idea. Only defend yourself from the person who believes it.

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              Spoken like a person with absolutely no skin in the game. Talking it out is great but what happens when that doesn’t work? What happens when the next one successfully takes power and the congress and judiciary side with them?

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        Don’t forget planned to murder every Democrat, Republican who didn’t do what they wanted, and the Vice President.

        “HANG MIKE PENCE!”

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      I guarantee the crime rate of maga is greater than the undocumented immigrant population. We already know undocumented immigrants commit less crime than native-born Americans as a whole.

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      I already consider them to be terrorists. Maybe not all trump supporters. but, there’s definitely a lot that are.

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      Oh no, they are not terrorists. I know because the cops told me they are very fine people.

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      Even if they did do a terrorism and kill people, they’d probably just blame it on trans people and get away with it.

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    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. - Francis M. Wilhoit

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        And the world was shocked because he is someone the law protects but does not bind.

        Trump is currently being protected by Supreme Court justices who are literally deciding whether he’s bound by any law. You can bet that same conservative majority would make sure he’s protected by all of them.

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    …thus showing that the “Law and Order” party was never about law, they just want a particular kind of order- that is, a hierarchy wherein people below them on the status-ladder know not to try to hold them accountable to anything, including the law or even plain decency.

    To them, the law is the cudgel to keep the poors and plebes in their place- low in the order- never to be applied to them.

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      That’s Republicanism and that left the US Republican Party years ago.

      Now it’s all about Conservatism through any means. And it’s not even pure Conservatism: it’s heavily tainted with Tribalism.

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    They want their perceived enemies to make the first move. They might be calling for violence, but many of them are cowards and also love to play victim and win the sympathy Olympics.

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      I would not be surprised in the slightest if the right performed a false flag as justification for further violence.

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      No, they know that Trump supporters are the types of people to actually listen to and heed these calls.

      This is stochastic terrorism straight up… Or is just flat out terrorism, they’re not really hiding it. This is the spokesperson of a “social media platform” (lol I know I know) saying this, not just some random casual Fox News watching R voter.

      And he knows exactly who he’s talking to. It’s a clear attempt to mobilize.

      Goddamn people must really be this stupid. I guess we just need to experience this pain first hand like Germany before we fully grasp what we are allowing to take hold of our government.

      But even looking at them these days, it seems like 80-100 years is all it takes for everyone to start forgetting…

      Edit: Came back after some thinking and realizing that the communications director for Truth Social probably literally is just some random Fox News watching R. Just not casual I guess.

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    Favourite part of the whole article:

    A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”

    “You never saw what you thought you saw. And even if you did, it was entirely justified and your interpretation was extreme.”

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      Yeah, and I guess the trans people that end up dead in the balance will just be considered sacrifical lambs then?

      It’s ok though, we’ll make sure to use the correct pronouns at their wakes.

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    Liberals are going to have to get used to the idea of owning guns. I know plenty do, but still this can get ugly. Or they will just get arrested or shot in the face like that one chick.

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      I own several guns. I used to have a concealed carry permit because I traveled alone for work with expensive items. I let it lapse after I changed jobs. After sandy hook, I considered getting rid of all of my firearms because American gun culture started to disgust me. I mainly shoot air guns for plinking now. Haven’t shot a firearm in years.

      Now that maga has become such a presence, I’m considering getting a carry permit again. Gun culture still sucks. But, we can’t let the crazies be the only ones who are armed.

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      Umm, I hate this comment because it’s basically assuming there will be some kind of armed conflict between normal people. I don’t think it’s necessarily going to happen, and we shouldn’t stoke the flames for it. What’s better than saying inane comments like “get a gun” is to reduce voter apathy and hopelessness, educate people on their voting choices, and get them registered to vote.

      Social media has a tendency to heighten emotions, and there are many, many state actors who abuse that fact. I squarely lay any blame for Rittenhouse, Charlottesville car ramming victim, and Jan 6th on social media spread disinformation and incitement. Don’t believe everything you read about “supporters of [insert ideological enemy]”.

      That said, access to guns is a right for Americans and there’s nothing wrong with knowing self defense. But know that proper gun training and discipline is not scaling with gun ownership. So people are basically creating unsafe environments and situations for their families and others. Don’t do this, don’t be stupid. If you get a gun for any reason (sports or defense), learn safety!

      Overall, it’s important to get more progressives in congress and other places of power and authority. Not advocate for armed conflict

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        I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But the MAGA movement has all the hallmarks of a terrorist group. If they don’t win there’s a non zero chance they actually start some shit.