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    I actually didn’t care when there was an ad in the beginning of the video or what not. It was when I had to start watching multiple ads in the middle of a 10 minute video as well. Like come on, not even broadcast TV is that annoying.

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      Shorts are such a stupidly blatant way to start showing more ads than content, and they make navigating channels impossible. Hell you can’t even get away from ads in search results with premium.

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        Noaw I understand why so many people hate shorts! I never use the official app or browser to watch, so I don’t see the advertisements.

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      Same here. I was listening to a beautiful violin piece being played by a soloist and an ad interrupted it. I would be fine with watching the ad before. I immediately went and watched it elsewhere.

      Later, I came back to YouTube for something unrelated and had a message/popup that said ‘tired of being interrupted? Upgrade to premium here!’

      They know exactly what they are doing, trying to make it unbearable to use anything other than premium. They can get fucked.

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      If I understand correctly, there’s nothing about Firefox that makes ad blockers any harder to detect. What can Firefox and uBlock do to stop Google from blocking adblock users on the site?

      That said, I use Firefox and uBlock myself, and I’ve yet to see YouTube stop me from using the site.

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        They don’t care about Firefox. Chrome is the browser market, they have weakened extensions, they implemented DRM, and here we are.

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          Coming to you later… “Your browser violates YouTube’s Terms of Service.”

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            They’re TRYING, but for now, it would be a user agent extension matter.

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        It doesn’t matter if YouTube can detect uBlock. The great thing about uBlock is you can just block the anti-adblock script. Since Javascript is executed on the user’s computer, it’s trivial to just tell your computer to ignore it. And moving it to server side would cost them too much money in processing power.

        That’s why they want everyone to adopt their DRM, so they don’t have to worry about it.

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        Firefox currently enjoys protection from being “relatively niche” in the browser market (aka not Chromium based trash).

        But if I had to place a bet on which browser would put effort in to protecting your privacy, including which extensions are installed, my bet would be on Firefox over Chrome.

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        It has always been my understanding that uBlock and uBlock Origin were two totally different extensions for ad blocking. Is this not correct? Back several year ago when ad blockers were new, I recall seeing two different Firefox listings for them, and people would caution users to get uBlock Origin and not the other truncated named one

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              Yes, it is metamorphical lol. Gorhill is the creator of both uBlock and uBlock Origin. However, he gave the uBlock github repo to another dev, who sold it to adblock plus. Do not download uBlock.

              However, he did fork uBlock and continued to develop his own version, now named uBlock Origin. Do download uBlock Origin.

              PSA: ublock.org is not related to uBlock Origin.

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        The difference is Firefox is not a chromium based browser and thus not subject to googles fucking bullshit, esp when we come to things like web drm

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        Just another Firefox fan boy. They do this shit when as blockers get brought up too as if Brave, Vivaldi, etc isn’t going to strip out the ad blocker nonsense when they build their versions. Just because these versions use Chromium as a base in no way means they have to use their code. Firefox fan boys are too busy talking about Firefox to understand this.

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      Or, you could buy YouTube TV, which gives you YouTube Premium as a undisclosed bonus I’ve found. A great option because it helps content creators and allows you to cut cable. I may have some bias on the topic of paying for media content services, but in general pirating hurts the creators. I hate that I’m old and wise enough that I might have been more receptive to Metallica’s arguments during the Napster era. I do feel though that it is in the best interest of creators for certain content to be previewable. The problem with YouTube video monetization are that most are not going to be rewatched.

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        Wait what? I have YouTube TV and pay for YouTube Premium so would love to not do the latter. Where might I find this undisclosed bonus?

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          I simply find that when I am logged into YouTube with my same account that purchased YouTube TV I receive no ads. I am not using an add blocker or anything. I assumed that was because of my purchase of YouTube TV. It might be a bug with my account because I still get a splash occasionally to buy premium, however no ads ever.

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      Imagine believing you get paid to make videos on a video sharing platform. Who do those people think they are?

      /s

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    I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “allowlisted”. Did someone forget “whitelisted” is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?

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        Blocklist and allowlist are much more intuitive, so if we ignore all the cultural baggage, these changes are rather sensical.

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          Cultural baggage? Neither term has any roots in racism, blacklist came from a play and whitelist came about as the opposite of blacklist

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            It comes from the act of voting using a black or white ball. Black was a no vote, white was yes. It goes back to ancient Greece.

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              Where did you find that that is the origin of blacklist and whitelist? The first use of the term blacklist came from a 1630’s play called “The Unnatural Combat” where the people who executed the king were put on a so called “black list” to say that they were suspicious and would be punished, it later came to mean (through use in other plays and texts) people who were to be excluded or had wronged the person, which is why computing blacklisting uses it (i.e. this ip is suspicious or not to be trusted, so add it to the blacklist and don’t let it access anything). Whitelist came around in the 1840’s as an explicit opposite of the term blacklist

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          Not everything is related to skin color Jesus. The world isn’t so black and white.

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    Two days ago I noticed when watching through the app on my phone that I could no longer just skip ads, and the trick of reporting them to skip didn’t work anymore either. I effectively had to just sit and wait.

    That same day I got NewPipe, imported my subscriptions, and honestly even if this is just a phased trial or something, I won’t be going back to the standard YT app.

    Creators make pennies from ad revenue. If I want to support them, I’ll make a donation or subscribe to their Patreon or something.

    I won’t just sit and suffer a slew of ads while my data is harvested under the false pretense that it’s all to support the creators.

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    So, alphabet can rip off the creators but we can’t? What a crappy double standard.

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      Of all the streaming platforms, YouTube treats its creators the best.

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    Aw that’s so cute, they think they’ll be able to stop adblockers from working for more than a few days. Just like everyone else before them. Good luck with that guys.

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    Just yesterday they stopped allowing me to see home page and recommendations unless I turn on watch history, which I am not doing ever. So they can keep forcing my hand and see how far it goes. If anything am stubborn enough to enjoy this kind of petty behavior from major players. They keep thinking “oh they will just do what we ask them to”, but I’ll do the opposite out of spite. I’ll just use !videos or similar communities to find my recommendations until the day comes where I stop using it completely. I quit Facebook this way, quit Reddit and Twitter, quit WhatsApp. Keep at it guys, let’s see who’s more stubborn.

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      I don’t think they care about the small handful of people who will stop watching YouTube over this, to be honest.

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        That is fine by me! But I doubt the number will be so small. Still I don’t care how many. Am not selling my data becauseo others are. -

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      I’ll take some of that action. There needs to be some sort of medical term for the reaction that adverts inspire in me. At this point, it’s pathological. It’s interesting to contrast YouTube’s original form with the abomination it has become today. Almost as if corporations wait patiently while they achieve market dominance before they come out with absurd and Orwellian ethical statements about ‘breaking rules’. Before that it was a big house, come on in and enjoy the cornucopia. No, Google, we will never stop blocking your poison. All we want is the service.

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      This actually helped me reduce my screen time. The only positive to come out of this, I suppose.

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    I’m unironically considering ditching any online interaction(s) on the internet and use my PC solely for offline content (write documentaries, texts, play retro games). Because I really don’t want to use the internet with that level of intrusion in my pc.

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      Take any cybersecurity class and you’ll want to burn your tech in a dumpster. In most cases it’s security by obscurity from sheer numbers that hackers/sites don’t give a crap about you alone.

      Additionally, every site you have ever visited tracks your browser, IP, OS, location, and more. This AdBlock tracker is just observing that you have a plugin for ad blocking. That’s the least intrusion that YouTube does.

      In summary, there’s no need to be paranoid, but only because everything that can be stolen or observed already has been.

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        It is like people freaking out over giving out their phone number and SS number. I guarantee you that info is already out there in countless databases.

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      I’ve had the same thought before but then I don’t want to become one of those older out of touch people. I think each generation feels like the world was in better shape when they were younger. But the truth is that many of the young kids today will look back on 2023 with the same fondness and nostalgia as I do when I think about the 1990s. Back in the day older people would warn us that video games and television would rot our brains. Now we warn our kids that TikTok will do the same. Everything is always getting faster and faster but young people are adaptable and I think they’ll find their way.

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    I have YouTube ReVanced on my phone. If YouTube ever defeats uBlock Origin on my desktop, I just won’t watch YouTube on desktop anymore. I refuse to watch or view ads.