• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Its 10 years too late for anyone to care I think. Democrats should have just straight up legalized under Obama, and even if they legalized now, they aren’t going to be making major points off this politically. Its just jerk-off material for the commentary crowd. If it isn’t going to make a difference to peoples lived experience, it isn’t worth pursuing.

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      You guys seem to think that the democrats had a fillabuster proof majority the entirety of obama’s terms.

      They had two years. In those two years, they spent their capital on getting the ACA passed.

      Then the 2010 midterms happened, and the dems lost any chance of anything meaningful happening.

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        To be clear, they didn’t have 2 years. They had ~70 days where they had the seats to pass legislation. That’s when they passed the ACA.

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        ACA, civil rights legislation, climate policy, and immigration reform. It was a pretty progressive two years.

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        And you seem to think two years is basically no time at all. Think about how much awful shit Republicans got up to under Trump. Approximately half of that got done in a two year period and that was even a historically deadlocked Congress. Democrats lost in 2010 precisely because two years is a long time and the best thing they got out of it was a shitty healthcare plan that, more than anything, ensured our current unsustainable system stays in place for at least another generation.

        Democrats are obviously much better than Republicans in basically every sense of the word, but Republicans get their legislation passed when they have the chance and Democrats trip all over themselves trying to appease the idiots who will never join their coalition. They could learn a lot from Republicans about pushing their agenda but it seems pretty clear by now they aren’t going to.

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          It’s the classic problem. Democrats can’t get anything done, Republicans get the wrong thing done. Been that way as long as I can remember.

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          8 months ago

          Yep, it’s amazing what you can do if you ignore laws, lock out the opposite side, control all three branches of government, and literally pass shit with stuff penciled in on the side.

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            Being democratic and inclusive is pointless if it prevents progress. People want good, affordable healthcare more than they care about if it was achieved with Republicans at the table too. The Democratic process is a means to an end, it’s not sacred and should be disposed of when it can’t work.

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            8 months ago

            If Democrats are incapable of governing when given the power, maybe we should stop voting for them.

            There is no point in empowering someone with my vote if they can’t do anything with it once they’ve taken power.

            Republicans have gotten more done in minority positions than Democrats have when in majority position over the past 20 years.

            Democrats are conveniently bad at this shit when it comes to getting the things their voters want done, done. When it comes to getting shit Republicans want done, they are also conveniently powerless.

            Maybe we shouldn’t vote for Democrats.