Are you guys fine with these new shenanigans from Github. I found a bug and wanted to check what has been the development on that, only to find out most of the discussion was hidden by github and requesting me to sign-in to view it.
It threw me straight back to when Microsoft acquired Github and the discussions around the future of opensource on a microsoft owned infrastructure, now microsoft is exploiting free work from the community to train its AI, and building walls around its product, are open source contributors fine with that ?
Microsoft acquired Github and the discussions around the future of opensource on a microsoft owned infrastructure
Personally I’m impressed it took them so long to start driving it to the ground
I moved to Codeberg
Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led organization that aims to help free and open source projects prosper by giving them a safe and friendly home
Federated forges can’t come soon enough. Git is already federated. There is absolutely not fucking reason for this.
Git is already federated.
New to me. Do you mean decentralized instead of federated?
Distributed version control system
I would not say that distributed is federated. But i could not find a widely accepted definition of it.
For example i would call FTP also not federated🤷♂️
Can’t wait for the day when I can collaborate with all my Forgejo homies.
Forejo-mies?
Don’t forget you’re contributing your code to Bill’s AI
Which is under litigation https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/
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Good take, but anyway, we are going to ignore all of them anyway
Waiting for forgejo federated repo search, federated code search, federated issues, then we can finally block github on DNS level
Honestly I don’t think there’s a truly good git hosting website right now.
GitLab works if you wanna get away from Micro$oft but the UI is all over the place. Every other alternative either has an infinitely worse UI or charges money to use
I’ve been enjoying Codeberg a lot lately.
Yeah, Codeberg’s UI is almost the same as github, its good tbh.
P.S. i came to the conclusion that codeberg/github UI is good, when i went to sourcehut. Holy crap, my mind couldnt comprehend what am i looking at. (Could be a skill issue tho)
What about codeberg? It is free and forgejo is easy to use.
codeberg, sourcehut, git.gay, cgit…
I went from a company that used github to one that uses gitlab. I thought it was going to be great and was excited for using a new thing. But it’s really clunky in comparison.
I’m fine with it so alternatives will be used more in the future.
This is why enshittification might be a good thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Anyone want to revive the GitTorrent project?
I hope github “enshitifies” to bankruptcy
Let’s use codeberg :))
and or sourcehut @ sr.ht supporting foss is always based.
Anyone else remember when MS bought github and a LOT of folks were saying this is where we’d see that they have changed and won’t fuck things up this time because Nadella is so much cooler than Balmer? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
My hot take is the quickest way out of this quagmire is to abandon Git. With the education system & bootcamps raising the next generation to think MS GitHub is Git, it would probably be less work to start rolling with another VCS as megacorp Microsoft won’t have the agility to pivot away from Git. Git isn’t even that great—arcane CLI, patches don’t commute, basically permanently locks in your name & email, large files require a separate tool, etc. And most of the popular alternative forges are literally just trying to clone MS GitHub rather than invent something new or solve the shit problems it doesn’t like threading, pull request model sucks, source code doesn’t need to be a social media platform with gamified stars & anxiety-inducing activity charts to encourage that MIT code in your free time the corpos will use & never contribute back while demanding you use it to build your résumé… or it’s built on email as the common denominator with fingers in ears as if mailing lists are the optimal workflow for all projects when a majority of folks don’t even know how to bottom post & keep their mail with the same evil Microsoft or the other evil Google. Nothing is being bold enough to actually have a better user experience—currently the best lure is… free software, but worse UX? Being a better UX the Microsoft GitHub is not a even that high of a bar. Some folks claim “network effect” but it seems clear that a lot of folks already want out.
Nah. Start anew. Check out Darcs, Pijul, Fossil, Mercurial, Bazaar, or whatever else is out there. Build on the ideas that improve version control.
git isn’t even that great…
What? Th E fuckv
Have you tried anything contemporary to or newer than Git (i.e. not CVS or Subversion)? It’s quite an anomaly that Git has held it’s reign as long as it has compared to other software & to assume it’s not worthy of criticism or isn’t regularly criticized online is delusional. There has been a lot of interesting work in VCS space that many have ignored since their heads are just stuck in the Git bubble. Was Git better than things before it? Mostly yes, but there are options now (& around the same time frame) with more ergonomic CLI, better conflict resolution, handling of large file blobs, better project management, & so on.
You seem to know a lot about VCS. Recently I’ve been looking for a VCS that handles binary files well, has deduplication, allows for deletion/forgetting of older versions without too much hassle, deals well with binary file conflicts, and allows for storing the old binaries on another server (like git LFS). Do you happen to know something that fits that description?
My memory could be failing me but I believe the gaming industry prefers Perforce for large files. Pijul’s FAQs seems to point in the direction that it could be good enough for some use cases. I haven’t put too much effort into researching solving that specific hard problem, but if I was to create a video game, you really need to look at how to best handle your assets.
I have heard of Perforce but it doesn’t seem to be FOSS. Pijul seems interesting, I’ll check it out. I’m currently using Nextcloud to sync projects between my desktop and laptop, but it’s a bit of a pain. It takes up to 18 hours for the initial sync and uses a lot of CPU.
Well the games industry is largely not FOSS so not a huge surprise. Parts of that might be changing after the debacle with Unity with those moving to Godot–not that Godot doesn’t have issues. For a minute before the Zoom buyout I was using Keybase to sync with some folks files, but I don’t know about long term. I’ve also heard some folks like Resilio Sync (formerly BitTorrent Sync), but I can’t say much about it. It’s a hard problem to solve since these files don’t diff.
