President Biden saw his highest approval rating since November on Monday, ticking up to 43 percent. A new poll from the Financial Times and the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business…
Oh I hated him since the 1990s when he wrote the crime bill. Hated him in 2020, and hated Hillary in 2016. I still voted for both of them. Voted for Gore in 2000, despite not liking him. I actually liked Obama in 2008, not so much in 2012
I would absolutely shoot Trump, and his entire family tree in the head, if I thought for a second that I could get away with it. That scam artist wouldn’t have gotten my vote in 2004 when he thought about running as a Democrat, he sure as fuck isn’t getting my vote now that he’s gone mask off Republican.
I don’t care if people like Biden. They just need to vote for him
That’s simply not how elections work. If people hate you, and they hate the other guy, they just stay home.
That’s how Gore lost in 2000 (plus a touch of GOP vote rigging and Brooks Brothers Rioting). He just parroted all the conservative lines about balanced budgets and business growth. Half the country simply slept through November rather than vote for him or Bush. Even a big chunk of disaffected Republicans joining the Green/Libertarian vote couldn’t save Gore from his own mealy mouthed centrism.
Biden is Clinton/Gore Centrism on fucking steroids. He’s going to tank his own base of support while Trump wipes MAGA shitheads up into an even bigger lather than the last time he was on the ballot.
I completely disagree with this. People stayed home and didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 because they wanted to send a message. They didn’t think Trump would be elected.
What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country who cares more about himself and his friends than what was good for the people.
I didn’t like Hillary, but I voted for her. I don’t like Biden but I’ll vote for him because the alternative is another 4 years of people losing rights that I believe they should have.
People stayed home and didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 because they wanted to send a message.
I don’t know about “send a message” nearly so much as “felt disillusioned and betrayed”. She gave them nothing to show up for. Hell, Hillary’s primary demographic was supposed to be upwardly mobile white women, and the majority of them ended up voting for Trump.
What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country
After Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and then Obama, this was par for the course.
If you lived through the 2002 GOP landslide, Trump wasn’t anything new. The xenophobia and the white nationalism, the naked demagoguery and far-right religious fervor, the shameless pandering to a handful of insider business leaders, the bailouts and bankruptcies… It was just a repeat of the Bush Administration.
To see Democrats in leadership sucking up to the prior dipshit fascist really drove home to us old-heads what GenZ had to learn the hard way - liberals weren’t going to lift a finger to this guy if they could help it.
I didn’t like Hillary, but I voted for her. I don’t like Biden but I’ll vote for him
This has been the story of American politics since at least Kennedy. The long line of “I didn’t like him but I voted for him” candidates have only produced more of the same shitty guys. And the country has rotted out from the inside, as liberals continued to contend “the only thing we can do is VOTE!” while conservatives took to the streets and reshaped the country with their own bare hands.
If you believe the previous presidents you listed were as narcissistic as Trump, I do t know what to say.
Also, Republicans have reshaped this country in a worst way. Democrats are weaker, but that is only because they don’t stoop to the same level as Republicans do when it comes to politics. Dems actually try to work together, Republicans say do what I want or else. Do you remember at all the previous government shutdowns? All due to Republicans not willing to compromise. Then they do a big show saying it’s all Democrats fault.
If you believe the previous presidents you listed were as narcissistic as Trump, I do t know what to say.
Show me so much as a candidate in the last forty years who isn’t dripping with narcissism.
Also, Republicans have reshaped this country in a worst way.
Whether it was the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 or the Graham-Leach-Biley of 1998 or SESTA/FOSTA in 2018 or the repeated extensions and reauthorizations of the 2001 Patriot Act, the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, or the endless wars in the Middle East, you can consistently find a large cadre of Democrats (often with Joe Biden himself at their head) paving the way for these ultra-conservative legislative changes.
All due to Republicans not willing to compromise.
In 2016, Mitch McConnell dragged out the nomination of Judge Antonin Scalia’s replacement for a full ten months.
In 2020, Democrats couldn’t stall the nomination of ACB as the replacement for RBG for three months.
I only wish the problem was Republicans being unwilling to compromise. Far too often, they simply play the face to policies Democrats appear more than willing to support.
I should note that Obama had a sub-50 approval rating in 2012 when he beat Mitt Romney. But Romney also wasn’t pulling in record-breaking primary vote totals or seeing huge groundswells of MAGA-tier support.
Biden coasted to victory in 2020 thanks to a pandemic everybody hated and four years of Trump fresh in their minds. I don’t think he has those advantages anymore.
Are you talking about popular vote? That sadly doesn’t matter.
Biden won a handful of states by razor thin margins, which got him the presidency. And it took his campaign spending a literal billion dollars to accomplish that
Biden won a handful of states by razor thin margins
Biden’s margins improved substantially from election day, as the mail-in ballots filled up the vote count. Pennsylvania’s margin grew by 80,000 votes from the razor thin win he had when polls closed. He won states Democrats hadn’t taken since the 1970s. He nearly swept the Midwest, with the tipping point state of his win being Wisconsin.
And he’s less popular now… Not just nationwide, but in state polling for those states.
Oh yeah. He’s absolutely fucked now. Very real chance he loses in a landside in 2024 as all of those Obama-Trump-Biden states flip back into Trump’s column.
To be fair, the only state he broke primary vote total records in this year was New Hampshire (pop. 1.4m).
He’s breaking his own records from 2016, but the conditions of the 2016 primary and the 2024 primary are pretty different, given that there was never any real competition against him this year, mostly just a clown show.
53% disapprove, 43% approve
Doesn’t seem like cause to celebrate…
I don’t care if people like Biden. They just need to vote for him over the alternative.
Besides, a lot of the country has already decided they’re going to hate him regardless.
I don’t like Biden. I disapprove of his job performance. And I will desperately support his candidacy for president. He must win.
Oh I hated him since the 1990s when he wrote the crime bill. Hated him in 2020, and hated Hillary in 2016. I still voted for both of them. Voted for Gore in 2000, despite not liking him. I actually liked Obama in 2008, not so much in 2012
I would absolutely shoot Trump, and his entire family tree in the head, if I thought for a second that I could get away with it. That scam artist wouldn’t have gotten my vote in 2004 when he thought about running as a Democrat, he sure as fuck isn’t getting my vote now that he’s gone mask off Republican.
I haven’t actually liked anyone I’ve voted for except for the time I voted for my dad for town council. Isn’t that the point?
That’s simply not how elections work. If people hate you, and they hate the other guy, they just stay home.
That’s how Gore lost in 2000 (plus a touch of GOP vote rigging and Brooks Brothers Rioting). He just parroted all the conservative lines about balanced budgets and business growth. Half the country simply slept through November rather than vote for him or Bush. Even a big chunk of disaffected Republicans joining the Green/Libertarian vote couldn’t save Gore from his own mealy mouthed centrism.
Biden is Clinton/Gore Centrism on fucking steroids. He’s going to tank his own base of support while Trump wipes MAGA shitheads up into an even bigger lather than the last time he was on the ballot.
I completely disagree with this. People stayed home and didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 because they wanted to send a message. They didn’t think Trump would be elected.
What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country who cares more about himself and his friends than what was good for the people.
I didn’t like Hillary, but I voted for her. I don’t like Biden but I’ll vote for him because the alternative is another 4 years of people losing rights that I believe they should have.
I don’t know about “send a message” nearly so much as “felt disillusioned and betrayed”. She gave them nothing to show up for. Hell, Hillary’s primary demographic was supposed to be upwardly mobile white women, and the majority of them ended up voting for Trump.
After Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and then Obama, this was par for the course.
If you lived through the 2002 GOP landslide, Trump wasn’t anything new. The xenophobia and the white nationalism, the naked demagoguery and far-right religious fervor, the shameless pandering to a handful of insider business leaders, the bailouts and bankruptcies… It was just a repeat of the Bush Administration.
To see Democrats in leadership sucking up to the prior dipshit fascist really drove home to us old-heads what GenZ had to learn the hard way - liberals weren’t going to lift a finger to this guy if they could help it.
This has been the story of American politics since at least Kennedy. The long line of “I didn’t like him but I voted for him” candidates have only produced more of the same shitty guys. And the country has rotted out from the inside, as liberals continued to contend “the only thing we can do is VOTE!” while conservatives took to the streets and reshaped the country with their own bare hands.
If you believe the previous presidents you listed were as narcissistic as Trump, I do t know what to say.
Also, Republicans have reshaped this country in a worst way. Democrats are weaker, but that is only because they don’t stoop to the same level as Republicans do when it comes to politics. Dems actually try to work together, Republicans say do what I want or else. Do you remember at all the previous government shutdowns? All due to Republicans not willing to compromise. Then they do a big show saying it’s all Democrats fault.
Show me so much as a candidate in the last forty years who isn’t dripping with narcissism.
Whether it was the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 or the Graham-Leach-Biley of 1998 or SESTA/FOSTA in 2018 or the repeated extensions and reauthorizations of the 2001 Patriot Act, the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, or the endless wars in the Middle East, you can consistently find a large cadre of Democrats (often with Joe Biden himself at their head) paving the way for these ultra-conservative legislative changes.
In 2016, Mitch McConnell dragged out the nomination of Judge Antonin Scalia’s replacement for a full ten months.
In 2020, Democrats couldn’t stall the nomination of ACB as the replacement for RBG for three months.
I only wish the problem was Republicans being unwilling to compromise. Far too often, they simply play the face to policies Democrats appear more than willing to support.
Telling people who they should vote for is very democratic of you
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Congrats, this is the dumbest comment I’ve seen in at least a week.
Yes it is. Thee anti-democratic action would be me putting a bomb collar on someone and forcing them to vote my preferred way.
I should note that Obama had a sub-50 approval rating in 2012 when he beat Mitt Romney. But Romney also wasn’t pulling in record-breaking primary vote totals or seeing huge groundswells of MAGA-tier support.
Biden coasted to victory in 2020 thanks to a pandemic everybody hated and four years of Trump fresh in their minds. I don’t think he has those advantages anymore.
What?
Are you talking about popular vote? That sadly doesn’t matter.
Biden won a handful of states by razor thin margins, which got him the presidency. And it took his campaign spending a literal billion dollars to accomplish that
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/2020-election-trump-biden-closest-states/index.html
And he’s less popular now… Not just nationwide, but in state polling for those states.
We don’t live in a direct democracy, so you have to look kinda close to see what’s happening.
Biden’s margins improved substantially from election day, as the mail-in ballots filled up the vote count. Pennsylvania’s margin grew by 80,000 votes from the razor thin win he had when polls closed. He won states Democrats hadn’t taken since the 1970s. He nearly swept the Midwest, with the tipping point state of his win being Wisconsin.
Oh yeah. He’s absolutely fucked now. Very real chance he loses in a landside in 2024 as all of those Obama-Trump-Biden states flip back into Trump’s column.
I didn’t know he won his home state by that much
What states? Don’t feel like you have to list them all, but you said plural so at least two of you wouldn’t mind.
I tried googling it and didn’t find much
Arizona and Georgia
1996
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_Arizona
1992
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_Georgia
Now, I might not be the best at math, but the 1990s came after the 1970s…
So…
Do you have two examples of that? Or was the 90s as far back as you found and you didn’t think I’d check?
To be fair, the only state he broke primary vote total records in this year was New Hampshire (pop. 1.4m).
He’s breaking his own records from 2016, but the conditions of the 2016 primary and the 2024 primary are pretty different, given that there was never any real competition against him this year, mostly just a clown show.