Ex-president avoided past ‘shithole countries’ racist invective, but said the US hadn’t gotten enough immigrants from ‘nice countries’
Donald Trump bemoaned a lack of immigrants to the US from “nice” countries “like Denmark [or] Switzerland”, offering millionaire donors at a Florida fundraiser a reprise of infamous racist Oval Office remarks about people coming to America from “shithole countries”.
Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee for president again, despite facing 88 criminal charges and multimillion-dollar civil penalties for tax fraud and defamation, the latter arising from a rape allegation a judge called “substantially true”.
According to the New York Times, which cited an unnamed attendee at the Saturday event in Palm Beach, Trump told his audience: “These are people coming in from prisons and jails. They’re coming in from just unbelievable places and countries, countries that are a disaster.
“And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?”
He’s complaining that people don’t want to leave countries with socialized health care and more protections for workers? Maybe he is coming to the wrong conclusions about that.
To them, the US is the shithole country, that’s why.
My cousin in the Schengen area got breast cancer and went off to get treatment with 80% of her salary. After the first rounds feeling much better asked the social worker to go back and the answer was, not until you get to the last round and get medical clearance.
Try that in the US.
That shit radicalized me.They’re not wrong.
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As a person from Denmark; I’m fine thanks.
I was actually asked by one of my old bosses, an American lady, why I didn’t leave the impending doom that is Switzerland.
I guess I prefer my godless wasteland with a highly functional public transportation system and our guns very reasonably regulated (we can actually buy more kinds of guns and more easily that the US).
Yeah, Denmark and Norway have populations of between 5.5 and 5.9 million. Of that 11 or so million, in 2023, a total of less than 30 thousand citizens decided to leave. And I would be willing to bet that the majority of those leaving went to one of the following countries: Norway, Denmark or Sweden.
You can’t even get a decent kamelåså in the USA.
Why would someone go from a “nice” country to the US? People want to improve their situation
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Just wanted to say, please move your conservative ass back to twitter or something. We want to keep Lemmy nice 😊
The U.S. is not some homogeneous entity. It’s huge. It has its bad regions, but it also has its awesome regions as well. Just like the U.K.
You’re missing the point.
People don’t up sticks and move across the world for the fun of it. They do it because they seek a better life, the US mostly can’t offer that for people who already live in an advanced country.
Like wise, if you don’t want immigrants from “shit hole” countries, your options are to help make their own country better so that they won’t want to leave or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.
or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.
Republicans are certainly trying!
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I moved to Germany for the fun of it (you could say that I was seeking a better life, I guess.)
I’ve also moved across states in the U.S. for the fun it.
It can happen.
I’m aware that a whole lot of people do it for different reasons, though.
And yeah, I find it funny when Americans complain about migrants from, say, Central America. They should learn the role the U.S. played in destabilizing the region in the 80s.
But it has no social safety nets really which is what “nice white countries” tend to have. Who wants to move somewhere without universal health care from a place that does?
And also about half the population is certifiable.
You have a point.
And no, not half of the population. Maybe half of the voting population. The newer generations are less tolerant of the ongoing GOP bullshit.
Twice in a row Donald Trump lost the popular vote, by millions of people.
Why would they leave countries with a higher standard of living and universal health care?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country
Iceland 191.10
Denmark 190.60
Finland 188.10
Switzerland 185.80
Oman 184.80
Austria 183.30
Norway 181.80
Spain 177.70
Estonia 176.40
Germany 176.00
Japan 175.50
Sweden 174.80
United Arab Emirates 173.80
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I cut off the list at 173 because I only wanted to show countries higher than the US.
Canada ranks surprisingly lower at 156.40. I’m not sure why. Maybe the temperatures / treatment of first nations people.
Why on god’s green earth would I relocate to a country that treats people like farm animals unless I was fleeing war or drug cartels?
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Ironically (to everyone but him) Trump himself is the reason a lot of people from the “good” countries would never consider moving here.
Nah, that orange furuncle’s just a symptom, the disease clearly reaches much deeper and is probably terminal.
I decided to never go there way before I knew trump. Don’t want my dog to die from a bullet.
Could it be that America was the “shithole country” all along? 🤔
Lmao reminds me of my company. They are headquartered in the US, but have a big office in the UK, and about twice a year someone from the US office comes over to try and recruit us to go over there. And every time no one goes, even though they’re offering us almost twice the equivalent salary to go over, between the women, the queers, non-white people, there’s not a lot of people left that wouldn’t been instantly downgraded the second they stepped off the plane. And out of those left most will care about healthcare or vacation time and uprooting their lives more than a better salary.
Not to mention the infara change would feel like such a downgrade.
Imagine moving to Houston or Atlanta and learning the horror that you must travel to work every single day in a car in traffic for 2-3 hours, and any commercial business is going to be more than a mile away from your home.
Yeah, im on holiday in Dallas right now and its so bad. The nearest convenience store is over an hours walk away, and if I wanted to go to a supermarket its an almost 40 min walk to a bus stop, and a 20 minute bus ride on a bus that comes once per hour.
despite facing 88 criminal charges
Who here wanna bet that Stephen Miller advised him do a couple more or fewer in order to land at his favorite number?
Lmao it can’t be an accident.
Uh, on that note, anyone from any nice countries want to get married to an American? Doesn’t have to be majority white, but must have healthcare and like, trains? I like trains and going to the doctor.
Do you like Canada? And middle aged women? We kind of have trains but it’s nothing to write home about.
I’ve never been but I’ve heard good things about most of it. And I’m a middle aged woman, so sure!
Omigod we’re perfect for each other.
My brother-in-law and his wife made the reverse thing. He went to the US as a student (IIRC), met his future wife, they came back here, and now she is happy to be a German citizen.
I’m not even fully divorced yet, give me a break
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I don’t know what that emoji means?
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Uh, I was literally specifying that I don’t care about the color of people’s skin. Because of the headline of the article. Jesus.
I would also like to offer this arrangement!
“Send me white chicks, Melanie is 20 years past her expiration date!”
We have reached the point of straight up, mask-off white supremacy (again…)
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Most majority white countries have better education, better healthcare, better religious and personal freedom, better personal security, lower crime, and better standards of living than the US.
So they can’t beat 🎉🎇💥 AMERICA FUCK YEAH 💥🎇🎉
I can’t speak for others, but at the moment, even as entertaining as it is, I’d rather watch the US from a safe distance.
So would many Americans. Check this out.
https://www.perceptions.eu/migration-in-and-from-america-current-statistics/
American emigration to Europe totalled [sic] 3,6 million people in 2005, and 5 million in 2019, whereas Americans emigrating to other countries counted 29,3 million people in 2005 and 40 million people in 2019.
Fyi, that article refers to anyone from the Americas as Americans. It does not mean us citizens.
