• andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    The most frustrating aspect isn’t that the Windows would stop updating, but that everything else stops supporting it as well. W10 gets retired - Chromium browsers stop updating - Websites detect your UA and puts a popup block suggesting you to download a new version rendering sites unusable. Shit’s snowballing for the end user.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Janette in finance is going to murder whoever tries to give her a FOSS alternative to Excel or forces her to fuck with a VM or web Excel.

      We remember the last IT admin that tried to do a platform swap on her. RIP Patrick.

      • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        8 months ago

        "Hey Janette. Switching to Linux will save the company $$$$$$$ per year.
        Your options are:

        • Create more value than that so it’s worthwhile to stay on Windows for you
        • Find a new job
        • Deal with it"
    • wootz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      That’s not what this post is about.

      I understand, and agree, with the sentiment that more people should switch to Linux, but please don’t pretend the answer to every topic regarding Microsoft or Windows is “just switch to Linux”. It is for some, but it derails and invalidates a necessary conversation about shitty behaviour by Microsoft.

      I have a machine running linux at home, I’m not afraid of a package manager, but Linux is not the answer to everything. Not yet at lesst.

      I can’t refuse to use windows at work, and much as i would sometimes like to, I can’t just go and quit over what OS our computers run. That would end poorly for my livelihood and family.

      The purpose of this article is to highlight unfair behaviour by Microsoft, especially towards businesses, which is a topic that needs more attention. Microsoft is in every level of infrastructure in almost every big corporation, and no matter how attractive linux is, that doesn’t make the dangers of centralised IT belonging to one company any less relevant.

      We should all do more to lobby for more companies and corporations switching to Linux, but replying with “just switch to Linux smh” is not pushing that agenda.

  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    8 months ago

    I’m really glad during the pandemic, a bunch of departments in my company focused on getting everyone Linux laptops. That led to a widespread adoption companywide.

    I doubt any department is going to get approval to move to Windows 11 and deal with Microsoft’s fees.

  • paraphrand@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    How long has windows 11 been out? Edit: Since October 2021.

    Why do I use a “health” check to see if I can upgrade? (My PC can’t be upgraded, so I guess it’s unhealthy?)

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      I guess your options are:

      • Do hacky workarounds to install Win11. If you make an install disc with Rufus there’s a checkbox to do this automatically. There’s no guarantee MS won’t bork your install at some point due to this, but so far it’s worked well for people.

      • Install Linux.

      • Stay on Win10 and lose software support from MS and your installed programs. This is risky, and the longer you do it the more risky it’ll get.

      • Send your PC to the landfill and buy a new one.

    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      And yet, whenever I see it, w11 feels like beta software to me. There’s apparently stuff being added and removed all the time. Broken updates every now and again…

      I haven’t used Windows much for ages even though I tried to follow a little what was going on on that front, but it never felt that way with the previous versions.

  • Jesus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    8 months ago

    $61 for most folks, $45 for people using Microsoft Intune or Windows Autopatch.

  • assembly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    So I’ve got a year to get everything I need running on Fedora. My only concern is Linux audio configs as I never have to use audio running servers.

    • dinckel@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Unless you are running some really bizarre hardware, I don’t really see how you’ll have to worry about any of that with a modern pipewire stack

      • assembly@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        I haven’t had the chance to run an external audio interface through Linux so not sure how smooth the transitions work with multiple recording sources. According to Focusrite, Linux is supported so hopefully it won’t be too rough.

          • assembly@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            I have the 2i2 and this is what I was hoping to hear. I’ve always had it hooked up to Windows and it drops off daily to where I need to reset the sample rate to get it working again. Apparently it happens on Windows relatively often so looking forward to that not happening on Linux. I also hear that Reaper works in Linux so those are the last of my concerns.

            • dinckel@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              For Windows, my recommendation is that you remove the default Focusrite driver all together, and install FlexASIO. Their proprietary ASIO has been nothing but problems.

              Reaper does work great too. Since you’ve brought up Fedora, most of what you need is already there. I would recommend you also install QJackCtl, and the pipewire-jack bridge. Much easier to control your inputs through the graph, especially if you have many mics or instruments

        • Mango@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          Linux usually agreed pretty well with my Oppo HA2-SE. I’m guessing you’re an audiophile. I think you’ll have an ok time.

      • iopq@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        I thought so too, but it skips in wine for me so I went back to pulse. Surprisingly, never issues in pulse anymore

  • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    8 months ago

    This is just going to lead to people using outdated Windows 10 for various reasons. I don’t use Windows much but have it installed. The trackpad gesture customization is basically gone in Windows 11 but was at least serviceable in Windows 10 (to change virtual desktops and volume easily).

  • Harold_Penisman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    I skimmed the article, but they seem to keep saying that the cost is for “businesses”. So am I right to assume that I can get these updates for free on my personal PC?

    • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      8 months ago

      No, home and pro EOL are the same date as enterprise. Enterprise editions are allowed the extra time because Microsoft already knows an insane amount of businesses will not be fully moved off 10 by that date and instead of making themselves look bad, they setup this program to tell everyone hey where here for you and also ready to make an insane amount of bonus money.

      Idk if the article also mentions, but every year after the first, the price increases for each additional year. The did this with Windows 7 as well, I know all about it because I work for a company that had to do it for 2 years. Once the time comes you replace the systems license with a new key that continues to allow updates to work.

    • Cyyy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      as far i know, this isn’t intented for normal users but more for companys. normal users are supposed to upgrade. you can basically pay microsoft for a bit more time so you can change your workflow to be able to switch to win11.

  • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    I’m good. I don’t own local copies of anything I’ll format that shit without a care in the world

  • GluWu@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    14
    ·
    8 months ago

    Companies will fire whoever is <30 so the boomers can afford to keep using their precious Microsoft until they die(they cant/won’t retire).