• jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Oh, it turns out an extension cord has a side use that isn’t related to its primary purpose. What’s the analogous innocuous use of a semiautomatic handgun?

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      9 months ago

      Self defense? You don’t have to be a 2A diehard to understand that it’s still a legal object. What’s the “innocuous use” of a VPN? Or a torrenting client? Should we imprison everyone who ever sends a link about one of these to someone who seems interested in their use?

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        9 months ago

        You’re deliberately ignoring the point that the primary use of a semiautomatic pistol is killing people, whether self-defense or mass murder.

        Should you be culpable for giving your brother an extension cord if he lies that it is for the porch? Not really.

        Should you be culpable for giving your brother a gun if he lies that he needs it for self defense? IDK the answer, but it’s absolutely not equivalent.

        It is a higher level of responsibility, you know lives are in danger if you give them a tool for killing. I don’t think it’s unreasonable if there is a higher standard for loaning it out or leaving it unsecured.

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          9 months ago

          “Sorry bro. I’d love to go target shooting with you, but you started taking Vynase 6 months ago and I’m worried if you blow your brains out the state will throw me in prison for 15 years”.

          Besides, youre ignoring the point. This article isn’t about a gun, it’s about basically “this person saw content we didn’t make on our website”. You think that wont be extended to general content sent from a person to another? That if you send some pro-Palestine articles to your buddy and then a year or two later your buddy gets busted at an anti-Zionist rally and now you’re a felon because you enabled that? Boy, that would be an easy way for some hypothetical future administrations to control speech!!

          You might live in a very nice bubble, but not everyone will.

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            9 months ago

            So you need a strawman argument transitioning from loaning a weapon unsupervised to someone we know is depressed. Now it is just target shooting with them, so distancing the loan aspect and adding a presumption of using the item together.

            This is a side discussion. You are the one who decided to write strawman arguments relating guns to extension cords, so I thought it was reasonable to respond to that. It seems like you’re upset that your argument doesn’t make sense under closer inspection and you want to pull the ejection lever to escape. Okay, it’s done.

            The article is about a civil lawsuit, nobody is going to jail. Nobody is going to be able to take a precedent and sue me, an individual, over sharing articles to friends and family, because the algorithm is a key part of the argument.

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              9 months ago

              Yeah man. Even if you loan it to them you shouldn’t be charged.

              Lmfao okay yeah sure man. No one is this year. See you in 10. I know it’s easy to want to retreat to kind of a naive “this would never happen to ME!” worldview, and yeah. It probably won’t. But you have to consider all the innocent people it unjustly will happen to in coming years.

              Also, not what a strawman is. You’re not really good at this.

              Also you still can’t respond to anything not related to guns. All those VPN and torrenting points went right over your head huh? Convenient. When you get busted for talking about how to store “several TB of photos” to some guy that turns out to be hoarding CP I hope the “assisted in preserving pedophilic content” charge rests easy on you

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                9 months ago

                You’re really deluded into thinking you’re correct and that your strawmen are good arguments. “If we do anything at all about this, then extension cords will be illegal,” really wet sobbing.

                “If this civil lawsuit is allowed to proceed then we are already under 1984’s Big Brother police state, they are coming for you,” wild. Your imagination is a very frightening place. You feel threatened by so many things. Must be hard.

                Why would I participate in your side quests? You like writing strawmen, have fun with it on your own.

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                  “Why would I participate in a conversation about the very real slippery slope of vague, easily exploited criminal rulings? That way I would have to think about it.”

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                    “Vague” “easily exploited” “criminal” all doing a lot of work here, but it’s good that you recognize your own words are a slippery slope fallacy surrounded by strawmen.

                    So frightened. I hope you can get some help and feel better.