You have to laugh … I remember Glastonbury, up to my knees in mud - it’s all part of the fun. Having said that, it’s unlikely turn into a survival situation in a field in Somerset, so not really that comparable …

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    The weather-related disruptions have caused suspension of the cleaning and emptying of thousands of portable toilets.

    This sounds nightmarish. People will start avoiding the portable toilets and it will be even worse.

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      Rain outs like this are pretty common at these festivals. The difference here is that I guess it is a bit harder to leave and more remote? I’d say 20% of the festivals I’ve been to have had some degree of mud issue resulting in some degree of infrastructure breakdown.

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        Burning Man is in a dry alkali lakebed way out in the middle of nowhere. Normally it’s extremely hot and dry the entire time, the ground isn’t dirt but a very fine powder that blows everywhere. When it rains that fine powder turns into this incredibly sticky mud and it becomes extremely difficult to move. It’s quite a bit different than your standard muddy field kind of experience.

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          Apparently because it’s alkali dirt, it leads to nasty wounds if it stays on skin for a while. Even in a dry year, people were supposed to use vinegar to clean dust off themselves so it wouldn’t cause problems. Who wants to bet that many of the people covered in mud didn’t have enough vinegar, or maybe didn’t even have any.

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      Last time I was out there just because I couldn’t find a toilet I just squatted. Of course dig and bury if it’s shit. But Def need to walk a ways from the camps if it’s still wet.

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    I’m stuck here in the sex orgy tent…send help…

    but not too quickly, take your time.

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    I’ve been to burning man, but even I can’t help but laugh a little bit at this… you wanted “radical self-reliance”? You got it.

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      But they didn’t really want radical self reliance. They wanted the Medieval Times version of radical self reliance.

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    The “news” is bullshit. I’ve got friends there right now and they’re fine. A little muddy and wet but nobody is in danger.

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    What is burning Man? I know it’s a festival of some sorts that’s done in a desert, but that’s about all I know.

    What happens there?

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      Rich people travel 1000+ kilometres to gather around and pretend to be not rich and just like common folks! This is my understanding as someone who isn’t american.

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        Burning Man was an amazing event when I stumbled across it on the internet in the late 90’s. I must have been 14 or 15, it used to be a real “go experience, experiment and find yourself” setting. It’s since gone the way of SXSW. It totally goes against what it was intended for.

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        That’s what it is today. Use to be more underground and subversive, even if it took money to be involved.

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            It’s trying to recreate the glorified vision of Woodstock but with more drugs and more money

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            Except, it’s not really about a lifestyle because nobody’s lifestyle involves living permanently or even semi-permanently in a dry lake bed. A hippy lifestyle might be living on a self-sufficient communally managed farm, or something. But, strip it down to its core and burning man still involves people traveling in from elsewhere, depending on limited supplies they brought in from elsewhere to spend a week in a place they couldn’t possibly live.

            So, maybe it’s a temporary art exhibit in the middle of nowhere so people can feel more free to express ideas and perform activities that they can’t in their boring 9-5 lifestyles. Which is fine, I guess… but it only makes it seem even more like cosplay. If you really want to live that way, then be that person the rest of the year. Don’t be yourself for a week and then hide your true self the other 51 weeks of the year.

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        Burning Man is a festival celebrating creative expression. No one there is pretending to not be rich

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      It started as a bunch of hippies in California decided to travel to the desert and do a week long festival (party) that was for expressing art, living care free, and being self-reliant. You brought everything with you when you came, and you took everything out when you left, leave nothing behind. Over time it has grown bigger and bigger, there are other smaller instances all over the country. The smaller ones still have a lot of the original vibe. The main one still has it, but now a lot of tourists go just to party, do drugs, and have sex. Yes, a lot of the artists have a lot of money, people talking about rich people, it was never about money or not having it. It was about living carefree.

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          I’ve heard the recent ones leave a lot of trash.

          Which is cleaned up by the organizers, so, as a whole the organization doesn’t leave trash behind. But, a lot of individual people do. But, in a group of tens of thousands of people, you’re always going to get some assholes. There are probably plenty of people who not only make sure to clean up their own stuff, but also clean up other people’s trash too.

          I dunno though, the whole thing seems so fake to me. Like “radical self reliance” is merely bringing your own supplies in and then bringing your trash out? That’s called “camping” in a lot of the world.

          Plus, there’s the absurdity of a private airstrip for the ultra-wealthy burning man people, the massive environmental cost of everybody driving in and driving out, the idea of “radical self reliance” but also porta-potties.

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      This looks like a pithy truism but it really just sounds idiotic. You ever been to, like, a trade show?

      Burning man is far from perfect but it’s a step in the right direction.

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          Yes absolutely, because it’s radically inclusive so anyone can come. I’m also nor a fan of the rich paying people to set up their camp, flying in for two days, and dumping tons of trash on the road back to Reno… But everything good about the festival is still there also.

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        You really start to wonder if the Lemmy Communists who make this comment in every thread realize that they sound like children.

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          Who else has been confused by seeing the word “playa” in news and memes in the context of Burning Man? I thought they were talking about the fuckbois at first

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          I really wonder how the Spanish word “beach” became “dried up lake” in English. Spanish speakers must be very confused. It’s like ハンドル in Japanese. It’s basically a Japanese pronunciation of “handle” but they use it to mean “steering wheel”.

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        Jokes that appear to have gone over your head aside, deserts are usually dry. In a lot of examples, a sudden flood happens, but the desert is dry the other 99% of the time.

        I’m not making the argument that our climate is neither fucked nor unpredictable as a result, but what point were you trying to make?