• Mammal@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Those silly commies don’t understand that you have to bail out capitalists when they fail.

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    9 months ago

    It’s actually quite funny how people foresaw the downfall of the Chinese economy following Evergrande, and it just kinda carried on as normal because the Chinese govt refused to bail them out.

    No doubt some people are gonna get burned by that policy too, but they made the right choice by not rewarding a company that clearly had significant financial management issues.

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      9 months ago

      A massive corporation going out of business sucks in the short term: people lose their jobs, among other financial woes. But if you keep bailing out failing corporations, you harm your economy in the long run because you’re keeping a company artificially on life support using budget funds. The company will continue to fail and lose money, setting your country back years in terms of productivity and innovation, and your economy will fold inwards.

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      9 months ago

      Property developers in China, unlike banks in the US, are not the backstop of the economy. They are not too big to fall: it’s just that their distressed assets need to be managed to minimize losses to their customers.

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    9 months ago

    Normalize not bailing out failing big businesses, hope we can bring that custom over here.

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    9 months ago

    Unlike U.S. bailing out “too big to fail”, China says “fuck you - we keep the tax dollars for us.”.

    Near perfect capitalistic communism as is possible.

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    9 months ago

    Yes but can they please do this without leaving half finished skyscrapers in other countries? The situation in LA kind of sucks now that the city has to spend millions cleaning it up (supposedly sending the bill to a bankrupt Chinese developer, as if that’ll work).

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    9 months ago

    Y’all are dancing on this, but if they go through with it, this is going to cause a run of panic that will wipe out the savings of hundreds of millions of people.

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      9 months ago

      It would in the west, in China they do a controlled crash, i mean it’s already happened, one of their biggest housing companies already crashed and it did not caused anything except rise in home ownership among the people.

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        9 months ago

        What about all those unfinished buildings that people got in debt to buy?

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          They are not needed. There is no one to live in them.

          They have over a billion excess homes. It was the only thing that normal people could invest in so they just kept building.

          If you bought one as an investment, nobody is going to buy them from you. They are worthless.

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            9 months ago

            But what is the actual real-world practical solution for those people?

            Are they now just going to be broke (or even in debt) with no place to live?

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              9 months ago

              Someone buying an unfinished building likely already has a home. If they don’t they can buy one for much cheaper now since housing prices have gone down cuz of the real estate bubble popping.

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      9 months ago

      Evergrande already went bankrupt in 2021 and the general population in China have been mostly shielded from the damage (except the poor billionaires though 😢)

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      wipe out the savings

      It’s zero sum to the population. Every dollar lost by an investor is a dollar saved by a new family buying a home.

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      I dont care about investors when their investing in real estate has caused housing to skyrocket in price and making renting the only option for many people, myself included, while at the same time those same people will rent out at astronomical rates making many of us live more than paycheck to paycheck.