I have this bad feeling daily that for whatever reason I loose access to my gmail. Don’t think of anything shady but simply I just loose it. There is a very small chance to it but still. You can read the stories that people uploaded their family photos to google drive and the algorithm marks their kids photos CP and they loose their account. Or maybe your email is used to spam or anything similar. There is no way to talk to google support, it is an endless loop of help pages. I just can’t live with this. I know billions of people do, but I cannot. My email address is registered to hundreds of websites including government and banking sites. You could literally destroy me financially or other ways by just gaining login to my gmail. Google could cause me HUGE problems by locking me out. I decided to start transitioning to an email with my own domain. I have the doimain, I have the email client setup. So what do you do with your existing stuff? Most websites dont even let you change the email. I have to take appointment in government offices to change my email. It seems like a giant task.
Have anyone took this leap?
I transitioned e-mail address twice. What has worked for me is doing it slowly. Keep the old address around: from time to time you’ll get emails from services you did not even remember being subscribed to. Also, if you don’t use a password manager, now it’s the perfect time to start. I suggest Bitwaden
Thanks. I do use bitwarden as well I selfhost a bunch of stuff like nextcloud. I’m actually weirded out on myself that I’m still depending from google
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You could literally destroy me financially or other ways by just gaining login to my gmail.
Sounds like you need to start using MFA.
You have to accept that privacy costs money because your data isn’t being sold. For $5+ a month you can use proton Mail or tutanota. For ~$2 a month you can use Zoho mail or Titan mail.
Whatever you choose, it will be worth it.
I switched to Fastmail a few months ago and love it.
My tip is: Start simple.
- If you have any other Domains forwarded to Gmail forward them to Fastmail instead.
- Forward Gmail to Fastmail (i.e. add as an account including importing old mails). This won’t get you off Google yet, but at least a backup and you can practically stop using Gmail.
- For any new registration, use Fastmail (or any of its random emails etc.)
- Slowly transition your old accounts.
Doesn’t take nearly as long as you’d think if you start to slowly transition stuff to the new address.
I found this easier than expected. I was already in the habit of not using my main personal account for online signups etc - just for friends and family. So i setup forwarding for the important contacts first. If I get a fwded mail i make sure I respond from the new one so they have it . There were still some services using gmail - utility companies etc. I switched each of those to other addresses using a redirector - at first simplelogin , now hide my email (but probably going to switch again). I left the gmail live for now. Downloaded everything using GoogleTakeaway. I havent yet closed it down so not sure what that involves yet, but Im not dependent on it now.
It might seem daunting at first, but get started and gradually move stuff to your new address. It does sound like you live in a place where this might be easier said than done saying that. Maybe the gmail address stays live only with a few final gov services (dont forget to filter and fwd them).
So first off, not sure if you’re in a different country or something, but I live in the US, and basically every website, Government or not, has a way to easily change your email address.
I’ve run into one or two that I had to call to confirm, but still, it was pretty painless.
Second, gmail allows you to automatically forward your emails to a different email address. While you’re going through the process of changing your primary email on different websites, set up a universal forwarding rule on gmail to send all emails to your new address.
Third, for actually transitioning your emails, sit down and write a list out of all your services that are tied to your email starting with most critical first. This would be banking, auto bill payments for utilities, car payments, credit cards, phone/internet payments, investment logins, etc.
Basically, the sites that if you lost access to or couldn’t auto pay with, you would be screwed or at risk of late payments.
Getting all of those down should be pretty quick because there shouldn’t be that many unless you have a ton of different loans, banks, and investment portfollios.
Getting those taken care of will take your stress down significantly. Then move on to important, but not critical, this could be your streaming services, other subscriptions like news sites or newsletters, important apps or services you pay for.
Then tier three is everything else. Stuff that doesn’t really matter that much.
This is what I did and now I’m completely off Gmail/Outlook and onto Protonmail and love it.
Last thing to remember is to download anything in your email that might be important. Just force the rule to run through your whole inbox and it will forward all your old emails to your new address. This will likely take many hours to fully sync, but eventually all email records will be moved over to your new email address.
I just finished this as well with Proton and SimpleLogin. Tier 1 get my actual Proton address. Tier 2 gets an alias address. Tier 3 gets closed as needed or an alias address.
Good idea.
Before you change your accounts over to your new email, use email aliases like anonaddy or simplelogin for your online accounts.
This is what I’ve done. I’ve literally just moved to Proton from Gmail. I created aliases for all my sites. The only site that knows about my Proton email address is SimpleLogin.
The only emails in Gmail now are from Google services tied to that Gmail account.
I used Bitwarden to help generate the aliases.
Does bitwarden offer an email alias service, or you just used it to generate the alias names?
No but you can use API’s from various alias services so that Bitwarden can generate your aliases for you.
you’re a fucking genius.
I’ve been contemplating this exact thing and after reading this thread, I know what I’m doing tonight. ty!
The biggest downside is there is a cost associated with doing all this. I’ve gone from free to paying for a domain (optional), SimpleLogin and protonmail.
If you’re going to use SimpleLogin and proton then look at their proton unlimited tier. I had SimpleLogin prior to proton so I only use the Mail Plus tier. SimpleLogin comes included in the unlimited tier.
I have my Gmail since beta invites so over 20 years. I’m dying with that account it’s basically my Internet SSN at this point. It’s also my real name so it’s professional n shit. The idea of moving it would be a disaster.
This is a fight you need to have. I know is an inconvenience but small steps like buy a domain and start using with new services or people is a way to start
I’m more afraid of what would happen if I loose mine. You cannot even contact google for help. I’m not owning my email. You are not owning your email.
I moved from gmail. Best thing to do is use an email aliasing service like anonaddy, all my aliases forward to a Tutanota email, but if Tutanota decides to do something drastic, I’m able to change where each email address points to.
I do the same. If I want to move mail provider in the future, it’s just a case of updating the aliases to point to that new mailbox.
Never had gmail, I used my ancient hotmail to signup for a google account.
I started by having my gmail forward to an alias email that goes to a newer more privacy focused email.
From there I would just update account when I got an email from them or the next time I used an account. It is slower then just going through all your accounts on your password manager, but its less daunting and typically the accounts you use the most are going to get updated quickly anyway.
At this point my gmail functions as a “professional sounding” alias for when I am not going to bust out my phone to create an alias for something I am doing in person.
As for something like gdrive, best practice is to have more then one backup, and encrypt what you put on cloud servers to avoid any scanning issues.
In addition to the other advice given in this thread, set an autoreply in your gmail that telld you that you have switched email addresses and include your new address. This way, people know of your new email address if someone still manages to mail you on your old email address.
what email client do you use? I bought a domain with the exact same goal in mind, but I’m kinda new to self hosting / homelabs stuff and everywhere I look makes self hosting email seem extremely complicated
Self hosting an email server paints a giant target on your back for hackers. It’s a huge pain in the ass to keep it secure.
I use my own domain email but then I use POP3 into Gmail so I can use their interface. I haven’t found an interface or software I like more yet.