• De_Narm@lemmy.world
    1404·
    2 years ago

    It’s funny how ‘getting an abortion’ is the most atheist thing the artist could think of - I believe that’s not even forbidden in the Bible?

    • Zombiepirate@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1294·
      2 years ago

      There’s a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible.

      Not reading it is part of the book club.

      • Lauchs@lemmy.world
        19·
        2 years ago

        I’ve been trying to find that bit and my apparently poor googling techniques are finding nothing. Do you mind sharing an article or passage? (Just got back from a vacation with some fairly religious family members who were goddamn tiring, would be nice to be able to cite this next time.)

        • Billiam@lemmy.world
          391·
          2 years ago

          Oh, if you want more fun, read them these two verses:

          Exodus 21:12:

          Anyone who assaults and kills another person must be put to death.

          And Exodus 21:22:

          When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that she has a miscarriage but no other injury occurs, then the guilty party will be fined what the woman’s husband demands, as negotiated with the judges.

          Then ask them why the punishment for killing a person is not the same as the punishment for causing a miscarriage.

          After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

          At this point, you’ll probably be called a godless baby killer and uninvited from Thanksgiving dinner.

          • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
            8·
            2 years ago

            After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

            According to Google Translate, the original Hebrew for just that phrase directly translates to “and her children went out,” but with the full context of the verse it becomes “and her children are born.” Make of that what you will.

            I could translate it to “and she gets a black eye,” but that doesn’t make the word itself any less reliable, only my wrong translation. I don’t know about the people you hang out with, but I’m pretty sure it’s important for Christians to understand that human translations are prone to error.

            • Billiam@lemmy.world
              9·
              2 years ago

              It’s problematic to try to read that verse as just meaning “born” exactly because of the context. The whole passage is about restitution in two scenarios: a pregnant woman who is injured as a bystander from two men fighting and

              1. suffers an unclear birth event with no additional damage

              2. suffers an unclear birth event with additional damage.

              Breaking it down that way, it seems apparent to me that the birth event must mean a miscarriage. If two men fight and that causes a woman to go into labor, but her child is safely delivered, what restitution would be owed? What harm has actually been caused? That actually eliminates scenario 1. The only way the whole passage makes any sense for the father to be owed payment is to see what property he has been deprived of- a potential child, or a potential child and his wife. And this just helps to reinforce the point: the punishment for causing the death of a person is not the same as for causing a miscarriage, which means that in the Old Testament unborn fetuses we’re not equal to people

              And no, American Evangelicals do not allow any room for error in translation of the Bible, because they see it as God’s direct word to man and therefore it can’t be wrong.

              • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
                3·
                2 years ago

                Guess I must be something other than an American Evangelical then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                It sounds like you found a sensible way to translate it.

            • Cabrio@lemmy.world
              91·
              2 years ago

              Born, or birthed? A stillborn is still birthed. See, we can play this game for millenia, others already have.

              • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
                4·
                2 years ago

                I copied what Google Translate told me. I’m no expert on matters relating to birth. That’s why I said “make of that what you will.”

                However, I do know that we have a lot more technical language than they did back then, so that’s something to keep in mind.

                • MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  The people who downvoted this have no sense of humor. C’mon, “borth?”… objectively hilarious.

        • Neko@lemmy.worldEnglish
          101·
          2 years ago

          There is a kind of “recipe” in Numbers 5:11-31

          It’s a “test for an unfaithful wife” but it’s a curse which would make a woman miscarry a child if it belonged to someone other than her husband.

        • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
          24·
          2 years ago

          Just ask them how god defines weddings in Christianity then point out Jews had weddings first.

  • Wage_slave@lemmy.ml
    815·
    2 years ago

    Finally a relatable comic that offers a true look into the home of your standard antifa, or uppity lib.

    Why just the other day I found a baptism certificate in my daughters backpack.

    Well that was three abortions and the gender reassignment is booked for next year.

    Seriously though, holy fuck. How does someone come up with that nonsense and actually believe that?

    • TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      232·
      2 years ago

      THE YOUTH PASTOR PREGNANCY ABORTIONS FOR MY LITTLE SUSIE ARE JUST FINE.

      It’s all the other little whores who are enjoying sex or may die from their pregnancies that we really worry about. Those babies need to be saved for Jesus.

      • Starshader@lemmy.ml
        12·
        2 years ago

        We’re talking about a religion based on the fact that a god made a girl pregnant without her consent. So I guess it’s part of their beliefs ?

    • NotSpez@lemm.ee
      112·
      2 years ago

      They not only can, but they will. Underlining the importance of anyone who sees this as obvious idiocy to vote as well.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      2 years ago

      It’s possible he thinks this is what would have to be true, for criticism of Christianity to make sense.

      But it’s more likely he recognizes this is absurd, and targeted at his outgroup, and… end of thought process.

  • iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
    484·
    2 years ago

    Wow, I don’t even know how to process this. The dumbass conservatives are getting so confused about life they’re actually creating sarcastic comics about their way of thinking unintentionally.

    This is peak irony

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      101·
      2 years ago

      Conservatives don’t know how comedy works. I call it the Yo Mama hypothesis.

      When you were a kid, and other kids lied about your mom, you got mad, right? And eventually they’d say - relax, it’s a joke, stop crying. And if you’re reading this then you probably grew to understand the difference between saying something and meaning it.

      I don’t think every kid got there.

      I think a lot of kids, maybe a whole quarter of humanity, only learned that jokes are insults you have to shut up and take. They’re cruelty you’re not allowed to get mad about. How would those kids act differently? They’d stop crying, mostly, when people told rude lies about their mothers. They’d snap back at other kids, telling rude lies about their mothers. From those events you’d figure, great! They get it. It’s not real. Except… they only look right from the outside. On the inside, they’re gathering a list of excuses for vicious behavior.

      These people know what jokes look like. They’re clever enough to build a punchline. They kinda get how you tell jokes. But they have no idea why you tell jokes.

      People defending Dave Chappelle insisted “he’s a comedian!” like that absolved all his opinions. I’ve walked those people through how jokes require setup that reflects sincere beliefs. (Like how “eat the rich” is a joke about classism and cannibalism, but it’s only joking about the cannibalism.) I’ve cited the many times Dave repeated certain claims far from any stage. But these folks never come acknowledge that being a TERF is not part of the act. That’s not how it works, in their worldview.

      Being a comedian means he gets to say things you’re Not Supposed To Say, even if they’re things you absofuckinglutely believe. That’s all they thought Jon Stewart was doing. That’s why they thought Stephen Colbert was on their side.

      The same people routinely parroted “you can joke about anything,” which is equally revealing. They’d heard it because they insisted “you can’t joke about [blank]!” even for the most benign, supportive, and inoffensive gags. And also for dead-baby jokes and antitheism. Point is: these types don’t care about severity, because they don’t care about meaning. They believe in blasphemy. They think condemnation, criticism, or even just speaking less-than-reverently about a subject is profaning something sacred, and chances are good they’ll hit kids for doing it.

      We told them every subject is fair game for fair jokes. They’d stop yelling, mostly. And from that event we’d figure, great, they get it. But on the inside, they still believe the issue is what a joke is about. They still think joking is an attack under agreed-upon rules of engagement. So of course funny black man shit on trans people. They don’t like trans people. It’s hardly a secret. What’s our beef, saying he’s not allowed to spout jokes full of prejudice and hatred? They’re jokes. That’s what they’re for.

  • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
    222·
    2 years ago

    I know that this is serious, but it’s so bad is good.
    It has become the parody of a parody, this comic has so many layers of irony that transcends politics

  • Cows Look Like Maps@sh.itjust.works
    191·
    2 years ago

    Imagine if we just leaned into their wacky right-wing conception of pro-choice and were like “yeah, our endgame is to have as many abortions as possible per capita.” Their heads would explode lol

  • Starb3an@sh.itjust.works
    15·
    2 years ago

    I feel like this should go in c/therightcantmeme, or c/conservativescantmeme. I don’t remember the exact name

    • MrVilliam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I wouldn’t be upset, I’d just be a little disappointed. If you’re gonna believe in God, there are better ideas out there than that, but I wouldn’t be upset about it unless the usual beliefs and actions tag along too.

  • AaronStC@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    2 years ago

    I saw this way before X was a thing. It’s weird that they re-watermarked it.

  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    2 years ago

    “God bless you”… riiight, that is totally what she is trying to communicate. Loving kindness and grace. No way her god would see through that. 🙄