• NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world
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    As a caffeine addict, I prefer black tea because it has a shitload of caffeine in it, but makes me less jittery than coffee. However, coffee just tastes better. So I just drink both, consecutively.

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      I tried switching to black tea a couple of years ago because I realized that coffee was making my anxiety worse, but fucking hell did tea give me the jitters. I think I just have a bad reaction to tannins in general and apparently black tea is super high in them.

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        I had that, and still get it from time to time, but found that if I wait until I’ve eaten to drink tea that it feels fine.

        Coffee on an empty stomach is nothing, but strong tea on an empty stomach has me feeling like being assaulted at a molecular level

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          Yeah it makes my teeth chatter, it’s very strange. I didn’t noticed a big difference between full vs. empty stomach but I wasn’t paying much attention to that either.

          I will say that most types of tea do this to me, to varying degrees. Black teas are the worst, green tea isn’t nearly as bad. I’ve had some Chinese white teas and I barely noticed any jitteriness, but those teas really aren’t very strong to begin with.

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        Give white tea a try sometime. It has almost no tannins and less caffeine than black tea. The flavor is much lighter and more fruity

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          Yeah! I think I mentioned it in another comment in this thread, but a friend of mine has recently gotten really into Gong Fu style tea and I’ve tried several white teas with him, and they didn’t give me that jittery feeling at all.

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            A heads up if you start making it yourself that you don’t want boiling water with white tea, it will burn it/make it bitter. It is delicious though!

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      I thought tea had way less caffeine than coffee.

      Checked and on average black tea seems to be about half. It can get “up to” what a normal cup of coffee has.

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    I didn’t understand why tea is so hated in America then I went there are it was by far the worst tea I have ever had. Like worse than I could make at home if I tried to make a shit tea. Worse than I thought possible.

    I used to disagree with the death penatlity in America but if they dragged the Liptons board of directors out and shot them it wouldn’t be undeserved.

    But how its brewed, how it’s served, what it’s served with, what the tea is it is all shit. I talked to a friend when I was there and he said “yea I know I brought a 50 pack with me from home. I’ve been here before” haha. The only place you can get a passable tea in America is on a BA flight out of the country. Even then it’s a shitty airline tea but it’s much better than any cafe, restaurant or pub in the country.

    I don’t get me started in the fucking Guinness.

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      I tried tea in the UK and didn’t think it was very good either tho. I think I just don’t like tea that much.

      Ironically the best coffee I ever had was a cappuccino in London. Which I paired with a full English. Still one of the best breakfasts in my life, that shit was dank

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      I do believe it all started with the Boston Tea Party. Drinking coffee as an alternative was hip and it just kinda stuck around.

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        It tastes like something a child would make and give to there mum on motherday and the mum would have to drink it because the kid is really proud that he used 10 spoonfuls of sugar.

        That’s not a drink for adults. Why you guys so scared of water?

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          I wish i loved water but it’s just so boring :( . I drink from a stainless steel container now, that adds a bit of zest at least.

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      If you are in a cosmopolitan area there’s plenty of access to tea houses serving loose leaf Japanese and Chinese tea that would satisfy the most demanding tea enthusiast. That doesn’t begin to count the non-traditional items like boba, tisanes, etc.

      The USA doesn’t have much of a British style tea tradition, but that’s mostly because it’s a diverse nation and British tea and food is mostly crap to begin with. Why would the US drink British tea when there are so many alternatives that are actually good?

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        You can straight up buy loose leaf Chinese tea like oolong in the US from basically any Asian/international grocery store. I don’t like tea very much, but that’s the best tea I’ve had including the English black tea I’ve tried, which wasn’t that good imo.

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    Fucked up how the British originally swapped in tea for their beer common at every meal. I would have been pissed

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          Me and my mate in uni wanted to try the navvy diet one day.

          8000 calories

          Breakfast: 6 slices of bacon, 2 pints of beer, can of condensed milk, tea, loaf of bread.

          Early elevenses: 1 pint of beer.

          Late elevenses: 1 pint of beer, bread and butter.

          Lunch: steak, loaf of bread, 2 pints of beer, tea.

          Late lunch: 1 pint of beer.

          Snack: bread and butter, 1 pint of beer.

          Dinner: steak, boiled potatoes, loaf of bread, 2 pints of beer, tea.

          But we was going to stop short of the 20 ton of material those guys moved a day. That’s proper grafting what those boys did.

          Anyway the fucker (my mate) got a girlfriend and I never seen him again so we didn’t do it.

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    I enjoy tea, but I like coffee more for most situations. Im more likely to enjoy an evening cup of tea than a morning one. Also the tannins in black tea can make me literally throw up if I havent eaten yet. Whereas a strong cup of coffee will make my digestive tract relax.

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    Black tea to me feels like the sledgehammer, whereas coffee is this smooth slightly syrupy beverage, that feels much more delicate. Case in point for me, I prefer my coffee black, but I would have a hard time handling a cup of tea without at least a bit of oat milk.

    I don’t know where tea gets this “gentle” PR from but I find it highly dishonest and honestly I’m tired of keeping my mouth shut about it so there now I’ve said it

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      Hey it’s okay, your opinion is valid, no matter how objectively wrong it is :)

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        Thank you, no one has ever accused me of looking at a situation objectively and I’m not about to start now, anyway now everyone sign my petition to put warning labels on tea

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      Don’t hold back! Tell Big Tea what you think!

      (I personally like Green Tea and lighter varieties but I have to be… in the mood. I’m always in the mood for coffee on the other hand.)

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    Black tea has more caffeine, but you can get pretty close to that with light roast coffee. Dark roast is weaker but sold as “strong” because of the bitter ass flavor profile. Light roast tastes much better, even tea like and has more oomph.

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      Try holly.

      Tea has only a fraction of the amount of caffeine that coffee has, so you have to drink a lot more to have the same effect. The hollies, on the other hand, have comparable amounts of caffeine: yaupon, yerba mate, and guayusa.