Jensen Huang says kids shouldn’t learn to code — they should leave it up to AI.::At the recent World Government Summit in Dubai, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang made a counterintuitive break with tech leader wisdom by saying that programming is no longer a vital skill due to the AI revolution.
So the Nvidia drivers will be 100% written by AI then?
Might make them more stable
Does that mean they can’t be copyright anymore? I’ll take it.
Oh dear
Yes, yes, keep my labour in high demand and my salary high
Even if AI were able to be trusted, you still need to know the material to know what you’re even asking the AI for.
It’s a ruler to guide the pencil, not the pencil drawing a straight line itself, you still have to know how to draw to be able to use it in a way that fits what you want to do.
I asked ChatGPT to show me how to do some Godot4.2 C# stuff the other day as I transition from Unity, it was 70% incorrect.
Good times. (It was probably right for an older version, but I told it the actual version)
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Yea, and as we all know, AI will never progress further than it’s current state. /s
Not with LLM’s it won’t. They’re a dead end. In their rush for short term profits so called AI companies have poisoned the well; the only way to “improve” an LLM is to make it larger, but most of the content in the internet is now produced by these fancy autocomplete engines, so there’s not only no new and better content to train them on, but since they can’t really generate anything they haven’t been trained on doing so on LLM generated text will only propagate and maximise any errors, like making photocopies of photocopies or JPEGs of JPEGs.
It’s all a silly game of telephone now; a circular LLM centipede fed on its own excrement, distilling its own garbage to the point of maximum uselessness.
Mhmm, give it another year or so. You are like people in the 90’s saying while the internet may be useful for emails, that’s the limit of what it can accomplish.
Forgive me if your claims of a glass ceiling ring hollow considering all the previous glass ceilings people have claimed about AI.
“An AI will never be able to write in a human like way” Check.
“An AI will never be able to generate a coherent image” Check
“An AI generated image could never be better than a real artist” Check
“AI will never be able to generate a whole video without messing it up” Check
I’m not sure how you can just flippantly say it’s not going to advance or progress in any more meaningful way. This is still a very new technology and it’s already shattered the limits of what people thought was possible.
Oh, AI is going to progress. LLMs, which are merely applied statistics and no more AI than Markov chains, are not, at least in any significant way (sure, they might get bigger, which won’t really change them qualitatively, but as I pointed out there’s no unpoisoned content to train them on, so making them bigger is moot anyway, other than as a means to temporarily inflate the bubble).
LLM is a plagiarizing machine. Who will write the code for it to plagiarize?
Shut up Jensen, and fuck your jacket.
Ngl, kinda like the jacket, but he makes it look dumb by talking all dumb
Guarentee he wears it to hide his manboobs on stage.
Yeah, I can respect / relate to that too. I just don’t like that he’s giving those of us with boobs a bad name by publically being such a dumbass.
My God the stupidity goes to the top!
The man has a crippling spatula habit, he needs the income.
If Nvidia driver quality goes down in the next couple years, we know why.
And who will code the code for ML/AI models ? I mean for Jr. Developers this is going to be a better way to learn than "did you Google it? " And maybe have precise answers to your questions. But it sounds more to me like “maybe you should buy more of our silicon”.
Sounds a bit like “640kb is more than enough” oneliner. But let’s see what it will bring.
But it sounds more to me like “maybe you should buy more of our silicon”.
gotta drum up that infinite demand to meet and grow their insane valuation bubble when they already can’t even produce enough to fill all orders.
While large language models are impressive they seem to still lack the ability to actually reason which is quite important for programmer. Another thing they lack is human like intuition that allows us to seek solutions to problems with limited knowledge or without any existing solutions.
With the boom bringing a lot more money and attention to A.I the reasoning abilities will probably improve but until it’s good enough we’ll need people who can actually understand code. Once it’s good enough then we don’t really need people like Jensen Huang since robots can do whatever he does but better.
GPT4 (the preview) still produces code where it adds variables that it never uses anywhere… and when I asked one time about one variable, it was like, “Oh, you’re right, let me re-write the code to put variable X into use”, then just added it in a nonsensical location to serve a nonsensical purpose.
And I say I don’t even know this person and he should just stfu and leave those kids alone.
He’s the CEO of Nvidia one of the largest GPU manufacturers in the world and also a trillion dollar company.
Good for him. I like Nvidia and use one, but I have the rest of his company to thank for that.
I think for me it was a combination of:
< Name of person I don’t know > says < big unhinged sweeping generalization > for < reason that makes no sense to anyone in the field >
My first instinct is not to click stuff like this altogether. I also think that anyone trying to preach what kids should or shouldn’t do is already in the wrong automatically by assuming they have any say in this without a degree in pedagogy.
He’s also obviously biased since the more people use LLMs and the like the more money he gets.
It’s a bit like “lions think gazelles should be kept in their enclosure”.
“I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time…when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness…”
Carl Sagan, Astrologist/Horposcopist from ancient times.
You still need the fundamentals. You still need to understand problem solving and debugging.
Yeah, tell kids not to learn how to code so that way they can’t understand what your products actually do so you can claim plausible deniability to them that they aren’t sucking up all your data like a hoover.
Making kids dum so they don’t know they’re being exploited and can’t fight back has been going on a lot longer than either of us have been alive…
I feel like it’s gotten to the point where they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.
Do you want Warhammer 40k? Because this is how you get Warhammer 40k.
Don’t forget Dune! Frank Herbert invented the no-code dystopia, courtesy of the Butlerian Jihad™
Hey, the Spice must flow!:))
Bless the maker
I know some Gen Z recent grads who use chatgpt to write their code.
back in my day, we had to write our code ourselves…
I use chatgpt for coding (millennial). You still need to know how to code though, because 50% of the time it doesn’t work properly. You need to explain the nature of your variables, and the overall process you want to achieve. But I still save a good amount of time, because now I don’t need to remember the specific syntax for a particular function, and it has saved me reading documentation because in can tell how some functions work by context.
Not learning how to code because of ai is like not learning math because there are calculators, sure, you don’t need to know the multiplication tables by heart, but you need to know what multiplication is and how it’s used to solve real world pringles.
i use chatgpt for coding (i can code myself but it helps with a lot of stuff), and if I wouldn’t be able to code i would wonder why nothing works. but because i know how to code i know that chatgpt is often just writing horrible code which often does something completly else than asked. so i often think “screw this i do it myself” after countless trys to let chatgpt fix it.
