Where they at tho?
We all know there’s barely enough people here. It’s not unusable, but there are so few people it’s always the same users posting and commenting, and it can be a bit dead occasionally.
I’m committed to the fediverse, but we could do with another big push from people dumping Reddit. Part of that would also rely on us (🫵) not being obnoxious towards the potential new users 👀
I think a lot of the refugees from Reddit are lurkers.
Hehehehe… lurk lurk
Lurkmore
I heard it’s something like 90% of people lurk, 10% of people comment, 1% of people post. So you need a pretty substantial population just to have enough posts and comments for the lurkers to still hang around.
It’s also why it was particularly dumb of Reddit to piss off their 1% and 10%.
Can confirm. I don’t talk much lol.
You really gonna call me out like that, homeslice?
And now I know your exact age, homeskillet.
It’s a hard habit to break
Yep, I’m part of the problem. Was super active on Reddit, dumped them, then just don’t really have the energy of fucks anymore to create content or comment really; it’s a shame…
It’s ok. You go when you’re ready!
It’s just a bad habit for me really. I’m so used to reddit immediately slaughtering anyone who doesn’t conform with the hivemind even though Lemmy isn’t like that
When I was a kid in the 70s, a lurker was a turd that had failed to flush away properly. As in : “Dad left a big beefy lurker in the toilet again.” How language changes.
I think it still means that too
You just described me.
Lemmy is only 4% of the fediverse by user %. Most of the fediverse is Mastodon.
To me that line appears to be heading up. I just joined a few days ago!
Welcome!
I don’t mind the idea of seeing the same user around. Feels more community centered
Isn’t the stat that like 95% of users only lurk? You’re measuring this by posters, not users, if you’re going by who you see post and comment.
Shut up jerk. I’m very welcoming to new users. Old users on the other hand…
I’m just kind of over social media. I gave this a try but I realised* I’m *the problem, not Reddit
Everyone wishing for more users might be wishing on a cursed monkey paw. I don’t know what the sweet spot number of active users is — I want more so we can have contributors to niche communities — but there’s a tipping point. You want your favorite bar/restaurant/message boards to be popular but not too popular.
Personally I think it’s more important to break big-tech’s hold on online communication. Every single user who leaves a centralized platform to join the Fediverse is a win in my books! Another thing is that we never had a mainstream decentralized, nonprofit and non-algorithmic social network before afaik, I’m actually not sure if the climate will evolve like it did with the other networks.
I guess I just don’t have faith in the majority’s conversation. Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.
As a dumb myself, it’s a difficult problem that I don’t have an answer to.
But maybe it’s a net positive. Don’t spend all day on one platform. And the dumb jokes are nice for being less serious all the time. As long as there is still good conversation
Bro, we’ve had like 3 dozen memes at the top about Taylor Swift’s airplane just in the last week. We are not exactly avoiding what I just complained about. So I guess it’ll be okay
Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.
As long as the influx of dumb users is matched by a sufficient influx of less-dumb users to help grow niche communities, I think it might be fine. I rarely browsed the large 1M+ subreddits, and mostly stuck to the subs with a few thousand users.
Honestly I feel like the proportion of dumb people here is ever so slightly worse than it was on reddit. It feels like people here are always missing the point of everything, not getting simple jokes, arguing about dumb stuff…
Yeah, even more than on reddit.
Honestly, I’m scared of what will come of it. Lemmy is fragile and the lessons of yesteryear don’t apply thanks to AI and evolving spam methods. That said, I’m still cautiously optimistic about the future of lemmy.
I don’t get the hate against algorithms, they’re just a tool, can be good and bad
I’m referring to recommendation algorithms, the bad thing about them is that they can be used to manipulate people. Algorithms in general are fine of course.
recommendation algorithms are fine too, the problem with modern social media is algorithms tuned for engagement.
And which algorithms would that be?
Whatever algorithms youtube, tiktok, instagram etc. use to drive engagement. They don’t have any names that I’m aware of
The problematic ones for that are mostly recommendation algorithms afaik, but there are others like gamification ofc. You can call them engagement algorithms if you want to be a bit more broad. But that’s what I mean when I criticize “algorithmic” platforms, and I think that’s what most people mean when they talk about algorithms in this context.
I still can’t believe we haven’t seen a @whitehouse.gov.social or whatever spring up. Why in the world would they not want to control their social media presence in house? Why allow Twitter that luxury?
If they went cold turkey on Twitter and set up @[email protected] the posts would still end up on Twitter because people would cross post them (just like we see Twitter posts on Masto or lemmy).
At least some EU governments have started making their own accounts.
I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon and the meteorologist said they wanted to but there’s an approval process for communications and it takes awhile to add new services.
I’m basically completely off X (and haven’t had a Facebook account for years) but during a recent storm, I made a new Twitter account that just follows local government accounts. It’s annoying that the fastest way to find out about flooded roads and stuff is X and I really hope that changes soon.
I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon
Thank you for doing that!
Good meteorologist
I follow a couple of not stations that have a Masto presence, but I get where you are coming from.
Hopefully the tide will shift more this year.
I know that some people are upset about Threads federating, but I feel like some people may never end up on Masto but could have a Threads account. A local weather station, for example. But if you could simply subscribe to them via Masto without ever making a Threads account that’d be great. And the weather station gets to serve more people (the “normies” — for lack of a better word — on Threads and the nerds on Masto).
Why .social? Why not .us?
Just as an example, really.
A lot of Masto servers I’ve seen have use the .social extension. I feel like it does lend itself to letting people know what to expect when seeing a handle that ends with .social. It’s maybe an easy connection to make that that’s some sort of social media entity.
They certainly don’t have to use that type of url, but I think it’d be cool and it makes sense for what it is.
I’ve thought that news stations should do the same, too. Like an @[email protected] would be cool and have built in verification simply because they could lock down its users to only approved people so you’d know that @[email protected] is definitely Wolf Blitzer. No need for checkmarks.
I have no idea who Wolf Blitzer is, but for example there are social.network.europa.eu, social.bund.de and social.kernel.org. So US can use social.gov.us
Oh yeah. Making a subdomain like that also works. And maybe is even easier for existing domains.
And you don’t even pay for subdomains
They really went for a double subdomain and network.europa.eu is not even a thing. Also it’s insufficiently Latin. curia.europa.eu and consilium.europa.eu is proper, europarl.europa.eu already makes much less sense it should be senatus.europa.eu.
poontang.gov.social
.us is sketchy AF. They should use something.gov.
.gov domain should be either abolished or allowed for use by any governments. Of course US is sketchy AF.
.gov is allowed for use by any governments that invented the internet.
I think once domains like @washington.usa.gov or @newyork.usa.gov get adopted for precenses on the network we’ll be golden, the EU is already making huge steps for this (as always) so I honestly think it’s only a matter of time, with custom software too I imagine.
You’ll know we’re proper big when subtle coca cola placements worm their way into posts
Those aren’t ads, Coca-Cola™ is just so crisp and refreshing that we can’t help talking about it naturally!
Hey fellow kids. This guy needs to get with Pepsi™ , the taste of the new generation!
The unwashed masses (like myself) will eventually change Lemmy. I don’t think it will ruin it completely because the best part about having hundreds of millions of lemmings is the niche communities.
The main instances and communities are going to get shot to hell though. I’ve accepted that.
Sweet when are we gonna IPO?
By the way the CIA just called to ask if anyone knows who controls this place and if they want a free tour of the MIT server closet.
Speaking of IPOs, I just got an email in one of my old spam accounts, which I used for one of my old Reddit accounts that was like 14 years old. It said I could purchase stock at the same price as private investors or something or other.
Lol wallstreatbets are already talking about shorting those stocks. It’s going to be funny.
For anyone who needs a reminder: user account ≠ human individual user. There are no bot/captcha protections nor IP restrictions on Lemmy. I’d say we have less than 1 million actual human individual users.
I think it’s grown quite a bit though. Lots more posts, votes, conversation.
I’m sure people have multiple accounts too, I have more than one.
I have three, this is the most reliable
I have two, but only because I got annoyed with seeing an a login screen any time I clicked on a kbin comment.
Not that it matters since kbin doesn’t show context anyway.
Shouldn’t have bothered.
Who would downvote a comment like this?
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Me too
I would imagine that if bots accounted for so much traffic, we would see more steep vertical growth in numbers
A lot (if not all) Fedi users have multiple accounts on various instances and platforms, so that also inflates the figure
Monthly Active Users are unfortunately down for the past several months in a row. Something more needs to happen.
It’s interesting to see how big the Elon musk twitter takeover affected these numbers. The Reddit exodus is so tiny in comparison. Worth noting that the numbers kept going up after that.
Like most of us, I’d love to see more active users. But the limited quantity is of much better quality here. Reddit is a cesspool of cliques and groupthink.
But the limited quantity is of much better quality here.
I would respectfully disagree with that.
There’s not enough people with different perspectives, that are respectful to each other, currently.
The ‘sample size’ needs to get bigger, having too few or too many will produce worth quality.
Congratulations Lemmy we are now statistically significant 🥹
Are they active users?
Nope, that’s gotta just be registered users. We’re kidding ourselves and don’t even have 200k active users
*update: this is just Lemmy users, but OP was talking about all of the fediverse *
Although FediDB claims we have about 418k active
Are they bots pretending to be people?
Or are they dancer?
This is probably more appropriate for c/fediverse
You’ll have to specify which server because lemmy still cannot show all posts on all server in /c/fediverse
In my opinion the biggest problem on lemmy
So now we have more users than the entire population of the United Arab Emirates (according to worldometers.info), and we could potentially reach the population of Tajikistan soon enough.
YakyakistanI had no idea this was a My Little Pony thing (never was a massive fan of the franchise)
Then you haven’t seen fan-made HoI4 mod Equestria at War. In that mod there is even country Stalliongrad with ponies like Caramel Marks and Fire Angel.
Wow. That’s some pretty insane stuff.
And by insane, I mean insanely cool.
Fuck yes. Let’s keep it going.
While atproto has reached 5m.
Happy Fediverse everyone!
Yeah!
Time to crack open each other’s skulls and feast on the goo inside!
