• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Henry Ford paid those high wages to his own staff. He did not prevent any other local companies from also paying low wages.

    So Ford’s strategy had a significant advantage over minimum wage laws, in that his strategy didn’t destroy any jobs.

    When you increase minimum wage, there is a sliver of the market that gets shut down: the set of jobs that made sense between the old minimum and the new minimum. Those are jobs that people were happy to work, but which they aren’t allowed to any longer. Those people are now out of a job.

    When Henry Ford decided to pay his own workers well, he did so with his own money, and in a way that didn’t break anyone else’s existing economic arrangements.

    In other words, he didn’t violate anyone’s consent in order to enact his version of economic activism. This matter of consent is the key difference between the actions of a private entity, and the actions of a government.

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      Those are jobs that people were happy to work, but which they aren’t allowed to any longer. Those people are now out of a job.

      Happy to work starvation wages? Are you high? Desperate, the word you are looking for is desperate enough to work for starvation wages.

      I swear this supply side fanfic is so out of touch with reality it would be laughable if I didn’t realize people actually try to set policy based on it.

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      10 months ago

      That’s complete and utter BS. Spain has risen the minimum wage from 735€ (2018) to 1080€ (2023) and unemployment has gone down. And if the raise in minimum wage is the reason you have to close your business you weren’t having a benefit on your customers but on your workers. And that has another very different name.

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        10 months ago

        if the raise in minimum wage is the reason you have to close your business you weren’t having a benefit on your customers but on your workers

        I’d say if the customers were buying what you were selling, then it was of benefit to them too

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          10 months ago

          That would be a benefit FOR your customers. A business has to benefit FROM the customers, not from the workers.

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      There was no set minimum wage and companies at the time were against increasing it, until Ford set the precedence and the rest followed suit. He was the trend setter.

      When you increase minimum wage, there is a sliver of the market that gets shut down: the set of jobs that made sense between the old minimum and the new minimum

      Makes sense but…

      Those are jobs that people were happy to work, but which they aren’t allowed to any longer. Those people are now out of a job.

      Yes, I’m sure people were sad to see their old workplaces shut down who provide poor pay and toxic work environment, instead of moving to better alternatives!

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        If there were better alternatives they would have already moved to it. Being forced to move to something better is only better in the eyes of the person doing the forcing.

        Consent is important.