I’m not a conspiracy theory guy but I seen the post on 9/11 on no stupid questions and it seemed more fleshed out than I expected.

So what are conspiracy theories that turned out to be true?

And what are the most believable conspiracy theories out there?

  • Lopen's Left Arm@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    If you’re looking for the most believable conspiracy theories out there, I’d say the one that says Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and it was covered up as a suicide is way up there.

    • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world
      13·
      11 months ago

      See, it’s still a conspiracy if he committed suicide. I don’t see why people are obsessed with him being murdered, or makes no difference in the end because the chain of events leading to either outcome is pretty much the same. IMO the suicide is more lurid because all the things had to happen to give him the time, tools, and someone basically telling him to do it or someone would indeed kill him. The man knew he was fucked, and there’s zero distance between him being told and others just setting it up knowing he was suicidal anyway.

      Point being - there absolutely was a conspiracy to give him opportunity, tools, and lack of monitoring so he could kill himself. The pursuit of anything to do with his associations or activities was dropped so fast it approached relativistic speeds as it vanished into the distance.

      • Femcowboy@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        So, actually our federal prison system might just be that trash. Like super over crowded and super under funded. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a conspiracy to let him do it, but you can’t actually say there was with absolute certainty.

    • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
      91·
      11 months ago

      That’s pretty certain. On the other hand, the real conspiracy theory is that Epstein is alive and the body was a double

    • trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      71·
      11 months ago

      Or the theory, given how many meetings Epstein had with the former PM of isreal, that he was working for Mossad/CIA to create a large honeypot/blackmail ring of highly influential people and politicians.

  • Wanderer@lemm.eeOP
    352·
    11 months ago

    The only two I know to be true off the top of my head are:

    The American government is spying on everyone. Which Edward Snowden showed to be true.

    And the, every personal printer has a secret code on it for identification.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

    So in all likelihood there are others out there yet to be uncovered.

    • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world
      82·
      11 months ago

      I miss when conspiracy theories were (mostly) harmless. Black helicopters. Secret UFOs at Groom Lake. Bigfoot. Chemtrails.

      Now they’re out of hand and damaging, even deadly. Vaccines containing microchips. Ineffective medications are used because it’s a conspiracy to not use them. Deadly viruses are a leftist conspiracy. Q helping sabotage the democratic process. Etc.

      They’re not fun anymore. They’re getting scary.

      • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
        12·
        11 months ago

        Blame Trump for that, the moment he announced his candidacy his rancid following began flooding all conspiracy forums with their rancid cheese.

  • mommykink@lemmy.world
    11·
    11 months ago

    JFK’s assassination was planned with Johnson’s involvement because of Kennedy’s plans to withdraw from Vietnam. Johnson’s wife, Lady Bird, was a main stockholder of Bell helicopter and made millions off of defense contracts from the war.

    • ExtraMedicated@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      11 months ago

      I read one about the shot that killed him being accidentally fired by a secret service agent while reacting to the first shot.

    • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
      21·
      11 months ago

      I think this is also the moment that began the rise of cynicism and bipartisanship in the country that eventually gave is Reagan.

      If what you say is true, then it should be considered a high crime against the United States.

      But of course, we will never know the actual truth on this.

        • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
          11·
          11 months ago

          Tell me you didn’t read the Unabomber manifesto without telling me you didn’t read the Unabomber manifesto.

          He NAILED social disconnectedness, with the caveat that he couldn’t imagine that the internet would make this 100x times worse in a span of 15 years.

          • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
            13·
            11 months ago

            I read his manifesto. Don’t call me a liar again.

            Of course he “nailed” it. It is a Barnum statement. Literally any time in human history you can bring up social disconnect and it will apply to someone. Just read T.S. Eliot the man was whining about being lonely in London turn of last century. Humans are social animals so yeah there is always going to be someone who feels like they aren’t getting enough attention.

  • Waldowal@lemmy.world
    91·
    11 months ago

    I guess it’s technically part of the larger “Q-Anon” stuff, but I particularly like the one that says liberals have an underground submarine base under Central Park in NYC where they go to drink baby blood.

  • CM400@lemmy.world
    8·
    11 months ago

    I don’t have any good “real” ones that haven’t already been posted here, but you should check out The Illuminatus! Trilogy (https://a.co/d/6hqz5kX). It has elements of nearly all the popular conspiracy theories around at the time it was written, plus it makes up a few more, and then wraps them all up neatly with a bow.

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
      1·
      11 months ago

      I’m hesitant about this one only because I find it hard to believe the rich and powerful would want to SHARE a bunker. Just doesn’t sit right with me

  • charlytune@mander.xyz
    42·
    11 months ago

    Tony Blair was a CIA plant. This was told to me by a colleague who was told this by his vicar. I find it highly plausible. I also joke that his predecessor John Smith was murdered to make way for Tony Blair, but if it turned out to be true I wouldn’t be 100% surprised.