Last season for DISCO, will we see it finally grow a beard and everyone be raging no 6?

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    10 months ago

    I don’t hate this show for existing like many.

    As Mariner in Crisis Point 2: it’s a starfleet story so it’s worth telling.

    However, I really feel like they wanted to have the “it’s BEFORE almost everything else” cake and also wanting to eat it by having more advanced tech.

    Then they realized their error, shot into the future, but in my opinion EXTREMELY underestimated technological advancement across NEARLY 1000 YEARS. Everything basically looks the same.

    And then a man child had a temper tantrum and destroyed galactic civilization single-handedly. Sure. Okay. Have fun with the rest of the show, but that’s where I turn in for the night.

    It just really seems like they had a premise for a good show, then someone came in and demanded this and that HAS to be in the show, and instead of rewriting to make it good, they just kind of crammed things in to please the higher ups.

    So far I’ve loved SNW though.

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      10 months ago

      And then a man child had a temper tantrum and destroyed galactic civilization single-handedly. Sure. Okay. Have fun with the rest of the show, but that’s where I turn in for the night.

      I felt the same way, at first. Then I realized that we have other things in the Trek canon that asks as much suspension of disbelief:

      • “God” lives at the center of the galaxy and is a right bastard. Also happens to resemble Chuck Heston as Moses.
      • Psychics and psychic abilities are a thing
      • V’ger
      • Q and the continuum
      • Whatever species Guinan is, and their supernatural temporal sensitivity
      • Tachyons and the rest of the fictional subatomic zoo
      • Mirror Universe
      • Time travel, but mostly to whatever year the show was made, and for the occasional Deus Ex Machina device
      • SPACE FUNGUS

      Edit: my head-canon for the weirdness of Disco’s first season is that they really wanted it to be the start of a Kelvin-verse TV reboot, but were coy about it.

      Edit 2: I forgot about the Kardashev Type 3 civilization of robots living just outside our galaxy, that will turn the Milky Way into a lifeless wasteland if anyone so much as prank calls them. But they made their digits really hard, but possible, to find.

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        10 months ago

        The Star Trek movie about God flopped though. And for good reason. Holding it up as an example is like saying, “Well, there’s been plenty of one off crappy Star Trek episodes or movies, so we should make five seasons worth of them” and then say that’s ok instead of wanting better.

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        10 months ago

        Totally, thank you. Star Trek is goofy as hell sometimes. I think if the Kelpian kid had been a plot device isolated to a single episode, no one would have batted an eye if it were on TNG or VOY. But as the reveal of a season long mystery, it was a big woof for a season and a concept that I was really into.

        That said, season 4 really picked up that briefly dropped ball. I think the last two episodes of S4, plus the one with the debate at Federation HQ, will go down as Trek classics once Disco ages a bit.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t dislike it for existing but there are a few characters I can’t stand. Sadly the main two for me are Burnham and Tilly, so I have to cringe a lot. Don’t like the action pace of the show and didn’t like big, season long story arcs. But I do love Stammets and his entire story, wish the whole show was about him, he’s such a unique character and has such a unique skill and connection to Starfleet and the discovery ship itself