Star Trek on Laserdisc
*Available in TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and theatrical release flavors.
It’s guaranteed very few Star Trek fans have ever seen these, they are as hard to find as it gets. What we have here is Star Trek on a fully analog video format that isn’t plagued by digital artifacts found on streaming platforms and early DVD releases (such as the DS9/VOY releases), nor does it have any of the quality issues found with VHS tape.
The elephant in the room here is cost, so don’t go searching Ebay/ZenMarket just yet. As with most analog hifi things, you have to spend a lot to get high quality results. Laserdisc is no exception, and it’s even worse because of the rarity of the discs and the equipment all having antique status.
That being said, in my quest to transport myself back to the 1990’s, I have amassed enough equipment and specialty gear to capture Laserdiscs in stupidly high quality, and have uploaded the results for normal people to see. Now the preferred way to watch these is in their native resolution with a high end LD player hooked directly to a retro Trinitron CRT or Plasma TV, but these direct disc captures will be the best possible viewing method on modern display devices.
Voyager LD Sample YT – VOY LD Sample Direct Download
DS9 LD Sample YT – DS9 LD Sample Direct Download
Hardware used for capture:
- Pioneer CLD-D704
- Domesday Duplicator
- Windows PC (i9-10900k/RTX-3080/32GB RAM)
Software used for processing:
- ld-decode
- Hybrid + Vapoursynth
- Premiere Pro
- Audition
- Topaz
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Dear God, if these exist, there’s no excuse for the sound quality Paramount+ pushes out. 😢
Fans need these, if you ever do this project, thank you!
I might do one full episode as a test, I have another big project I need to finish first before I start another long term project.
Good news is, sound quality on LD is excellent, 2ch 16 bit 44100hz PCM with Dolby Surround.
If you do, you’re doing Q’s work. 🫡 The fans, would kill for this and I just rewatched the shows last month lol.
Laserdisk is analog?
Yes sir, instead of pits and lands being 1’s and 0’s on the disc, they are variable length and distance apart which allows for an analog RF signal to be stored on the disc.
Yep, like a record, but with freakin lasers!
Fuckin A thats so cool
Stunning!
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I was so mesmerized by the Voyager intro I got sucked back into the warm nostalgia of my childhood. My eyes instinctively looked to the corner of the screen to read the episode title. And end of video. 😢
If you can get those on the internet you will be preserving access for the vast majority who would otherwise be stuck with the crappy streaming versions.
Wow.
That’s so Impossible cool! Would love to be able to watch these all again but on laserdisc though I think even thinking about is out of my wallets reach.
Honestly amazing.
Why do they look better than they DVDs?
LaserDisc stores the video signal in an entirely analog format on the disc, similar to a vinyl record but using lasers. In theory, under good conditions, the input signal is almost entirely reproduceable on playback (minus some degradation in the form of noise and dropouts).
The end viewing result should be something very close to the master tape that was used to make the LD discs, which in this case should be the same tapes used to broadcast the show on TV.
DVD uses the same resolution and video format as LD but digitized, so it’s pretty evenly matched and DVD has better numbers on paper, but where it fails is its use of lossy compression (MPEG2) to fit all that data onto a disc which visibly degrades the image quality quite a bit. This issue is compounded because they chose to jam multiple episodes onto a single 4.7gb disc plus various extras and bullshit resulting in even lower video quality.
If only Paramount would get off it’s ass and make a BluRay release…
Thank you for the explanation.
Yes I wish they would remaster DS9 as the documentary proved possible. But Paramount won’t sink any money in to it. I was hoping they would for Paramount+ like what HBO did with some classics for HBO Max. But alas, no
A full HD remaster from the film reels would be amazing, but even just re-digitizing the master tapes would give an improvement. That wouldn’t cost more than a team full of interns and some computers.
Indeed and equally perplexing considering how hot Star Trek is right now. You’d think they’d want it in high quality for the next 20 years of streaming/digital/tv rights etc
I can imagine. I have all films on LaserDisc. (At least those that got released)
That’s awesome! How do you use Topaz in this flow?
It goes something like this, capture to disk -> decode rf file to video and audio streams with ld-decode -> deinterlace and remove noise with Hybrid/Vapoursynth -> load into Topaz to boost res to 1620x1080 with proteus AI -> final editing, tweaking, and repairs with Premiere -> final encode to HEVC with Hybrid.
Note: For uploading to YT I doubled the resolution again to juice more bitrate out of their encoder. This doesn’t really improve the quality for normal files, so 1080p will probably be the max for regular files. If you try to go beyond that with topaz it starts ‘creating’ things to fill the pixels with and it looks artificial…
I can’t hear laserdisc without immediately thinking of SLC Punk.
Oh wow that’s a treasure! I kinda miss my laserdiscs.
Somehow I missed this thread when it was new, wow the LD quality really is excellent.
Thanks for sharing this I love this kinda thing!
Here is a frame comparison from an LD I captured using a Domesday Duplicator, and a retail DVD
NOTE: (Both are were played back using the same settings in MPC-HC with mad-vr and scaled to my desktop resolution by the player)
LD
DVD
LD+Ai
