Amazon CEO Andy Jassy warns remote workers: ‘It’s probably not going to work out for you’::Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told employees who defy his edict to return to the office three days a week that “it’s probably not going to work out for you.”

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    Jassy told his employees that he spoke to scores of other CEOs and that “virtually all of them” preferred having their employees back in the office.

    CEOs try not to think they’re the center of the world, the challenge.

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      “Should workers be subjected to pointless and dehumanizing drudgery that serves no practical purpose? Find out what this panel of five overpaid CEOs think, after the break.”

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      In other unbiased polling, the wolf spoke to all the other wolves in the pack and they all prefer that the sheep be eaten.

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        In similar fashion, an unprecedented unanimous vote was casted by all the worm hunting birds: worms should not live underground.

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        Don’t want to seem like I’m shitting on unions, but in many cases the established unions themselves are a barrier to real change, as they themselves have been corrupted and/or hamstrung by anti union laws rendering them extremely weak. Ive been in 2 now and was completely surprised by how they actually work these days.

        It’s sad

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      I spoke with virtually all of the workers, and none of them want to pay rent. Yet here we are.

      CEOs can get bent through a videocall

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      It’s not looking good for programers in particular.

      The reason why the can get paid as much as they want is 100% based on you being able to jump ship form company to company without having to wait for a company to find common ground between you and them through a union.

      Sure, they’ll still be hugely compensated but tech companies will keep abusing interns, freelancers. Obviously outsourcing will explode even more than it already has in the last 10 years.

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        True, but that’s why you do a trade union instead of a company union. And programmers have a lot to gain. These companies, shareholders, and CEOs rake in billions that could be going to employees.

        A programmer will make a feature that saves the company a million dollars and they’ll get paid $100,000 to build it.

        Now is the best time for programmers to unionize. Do it when you already have leverage to make sure the good times stay good. Otherwise, we’ll eventually be as replaceable as drafters are now.

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          Did you mean software engineers? A professional degree is not required but it is mostly software engineers taking the positions. The job title is also software engineer.

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              It’s pretty clear you are not part of the industry. Your preference for trade like titles shows you don’t have real world experience in this industry and are just sharing opinions based on your political beliefs with no real basis on reality.

              And if you really are in the industry it’s difficult to believe that you failed to realize that 95%+ are not tradesmen and have profesional degrees in software engineering or something similar.

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                Did he ever say they were Trade Workers? The only time he mentioned Trade that I saw was talking about Trade Unions, which don’t specifically have anything to do with Trade Workers

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                  He described workers as programmers. Only a neophyte would do that.

                  When called out he doubled down instead of explaining why he doesn’t use the normal title

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            Software engineer is a stupid term akin to calling the guy at Subway a “sandwich engineer”. Which even if stupid doesn’t really affect me. But now, half the time anyone says “engineer” it’s for you programmer dudes, and not real engineers. You’ve destroyed job boards and listings.

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    That’s a really nice way of threatening to take away the livelihood and health insurance of people doing work for you.

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        Well see, we’re kinda trapped right now. We can go chopping heads off, get thrown in the news cycle for a few days, and then continue losing everything we got trapped in anyways.

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    I’ve gotten so much recruitment crap from Amazon. This kind of crap is why none of those worked out for them.

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      I keep telling them I’m not interested, only to have someone new reach out. It’s frustrating. They don’t even pay that well.

      I guess if your desperate in the software development/DevOps industries, but even the smaller companies pay as much as they do.

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    I think my favorite part of the Amazon RTO is the fact that there are many offices that charge you to park there

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      When I worked in an office I had to pay for parking in addition to paying for gas and wear and tear, ALLLLLLLL so I could have the very valuable experience of working in an open concept office that is perpetually loud and distracting

      But yeah… wfh is totally bad for productivity… give me a fucking break

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      This is common in dense urban locations; parking is expensive, and getting free parking just for working somewhere is not expected at all.

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        If a company expects me to come in multiple times a week to do their work, they should be paying for that time and money by an increase in salary which covers that expense.

        If I can do the same job without incurring that expense, and have been, why should I? All that means is I lose more money from my salary.

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          One thing that would nip this ‘return to office’ bullshit in the bud would be paid travel time to the office.

          If they had to pay us for sitting in traffic instead of our paying to go to work their constant mewling would evaporate as they rush to reduce costs and increase productivity by having us WFH

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        Uh, maybe, but it is also typical in healthcare and hospitals regardless of their location so your point while technically true is not valid here.

        Source: i worked for 10 years at 4 suburban hospital locations with their own parking lots and i always paid for parking, every. fucking. day.

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    Remote Workers warn Amazon CEO Any Jassy: 'Working for a tyrant is probably not going to work out for us."

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    I was looking at some of the Amazon postings near me, but they’re all down in Irvine.

    Pretty much the entire talents pool of LA is off limits to Amazon now.

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      A large portion of their business relies on rapid manufacturing and delivery. They’re not concerned about the environment

      • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙@lemmy.world
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        I’m not an expert in Amazon but I thought Jassy was CEO of AWS, which would be amazon web services. For the uninitiated, AWS is basically a hosting company - they don’t just provide web services for amazon.com.

        Being the CEO of a company that specializes in using the internet and making those workers come into an office is especially ghoulish.

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    You know what’s probably not going to work out for you, Andy Jassy? The next proletariat uprising.

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      That’s never going to happen.

      What really won’t work out for him is retention of top talent that values WFH.

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      I think civilization will end way before americans grow a pair of balls and stand up against this breed of assholes