Lemmy.world is temporarily disabling open signups and moving to an application-required signup process, due to ongoing issues with malicious bot accounts.
We know this is a major step to take, but we believe that it’s the right one for both us and our community right now.
We’re working on a better long-term technical solution to these bots, but that will take time to create, test, and verify that it doesn’t cause any problems with federation and how our users use our site, and we’d rather make sure we get it right than have a site that’s broken.
We’re making this change on 28 Aug 2023, and don’t have a specific timeline for how long registrations will require an application, but we will post an update once our new anti-abuse measures are in place and working.
Take care, LW Team
You gotta do, what you gotta do!
Thanks as always for the hard work and transparency.
Thank you for the kindness!
I hope you guys are doing okay having to see all that shit… No shame in reaching out to mental health professionals. Makes me sad imagining you guys picking up emotional baggage and trauma having to see all that to protect the community.
I appreciate you guys looking out for us, but I hope you all have proper support yourselves.
That’s a good point. Jesus.
I am loving the transparency.
Whew, I’m glad I got in before this or my fellow homo sapiens might not have noticed I was also a fellow homo sapiens like them and definitely not a robot.
You’re clearly a Mollusc
How dare you! I am no mere mollusc, I am a proud Todarodes pacificus and definitely not a robot squid.
OK BUT WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING
I had a nightmare about electric sheep. Don’t we all?
What did you do to the turtle?
Here is an alternative PUPed link(s): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9qttRDmMc64
PUPed is the privacy-ignoring closed-source frontend of YouTube.
I’m closed-source, check me out at My Homepage.
T0TALL¥N0TR0B0T$
Yes, I agree with my fellow homo sapiens as well.
Yes, optimal timing indeed.
I cannot be glad for things, i have not been tamed
No place is safe from this, unfortunately. I moderated 2 big brazilian subreddits, and then decided to volunteer to help a smaller one. I had a day (and to be honest, an entire week) absolutely ruined when somebody did indeed set a bot to post large amounts of CSAM to the subreddit. Luckily I was online to quickly purge it all, and Reddit’s admins did remove the accounts pretty much instantly, but I feel for every Lemmy admin that even caught a glimpse of this material and now have to purge their computers and honestly, their minds, from that. Sorry to hear it happened.
Two brazilian sounds like a lot.
He wasn’t talking about a pube wax.
CSAM
I just looked up this acronym and am sorry I did.
Same but not sorry. I always called it CP but I guess this is more of a straight forward name.
Yeah, the term CP (Child Porn) has always been a terrible name for it. It sounds weird, but “Child Porn” sounds much less dramatic than it is, like some sort of fringe porn. Meanwhile CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) make it a lot more clear that there is a child being abused.
Same, and to make sure no one else has to have it in their search history, CSAM stands for “Child Sexual Abuse Material.”
I saw one of these videos in my feed last night and it was very obvious to me what it was. Thankfully it wasn’t anything that was to bad, but It still gives me the creep that something like that was in my feed.
Hope it restricts the attack surface, why do people have to be such knobs
Not wanting to be too conspiratorial, but it isn’t necessarily people simply doing this out of the badness of their hearts. The fediverse is a disruptive platform and there are many parties with deep pockets that might happily funnel a little bit of cash to certain consultancies in certain countries to stop things and add friction to this platform before it really takes off. Nothing like a little bit of corporate sabotage!
That sounds exactly like the badness in people’s hearts though.
The corporate types behind such actions aren’t people.
Such a Rick thing to say.
Dehumanization is how we got here.
Not a great way back? Unless you’re looking to go in circles.
Oh stop. That’s like that discussion about not dehumanizing neonazis.
And the answer here is the same: the corporate types don’t see us common folks as human. They see us as a product at best, and disposable resources at worst. It took a lot of effort to get to the point in which the rights of workers, the rights of consumers and the rights of people in other roles, to be recognized. Real sacrifice, even.
So we gotta do what it takes to keep those rights, because, again, those corporate types don’t see us as people. So, fuck them. They aren’t people either.
Humans are humans, whether you like them or not.
The bad thing about Nazis is they disagree. Feel free to be more like Nazis? I’d prefer to be different. Still human, but you know, acknowledging my fellow humans as such.
To ignore this fact is to lay claim to the idea that you could never end up in a situation where you’re treating people as subhumans. To call any human as subhuman is obviously antithetical to making that claim.
Clearly the only response to people who want to treat you as subhuman is to treat them with love and kindness so they can take advantage of the situation.
This is how every “civility” rule on the internet eventually becomes a “don’t sass the nazis” rule.
This is a very silly conspiracy theory. Big corps don’t give a shit about Lemmy, but there are plenty of script kiddies who want to hack easy targets. Contrary to your belief, there are plenty of dumb idiots with plenty of badness in their hearts.
The alt right instance has been fucking with world since they were defederated…
This is something right up their alley, so the simplest solution is they’re doing it.
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next person. But let’s be real for a moment … this is shitty people doing shitty things. In part because Lemmy is a vulnerable and maybe relatively easy target by being indie software with indie instance management and relatively young. They might have a general purpose, such as being alt-right and defederated. But at it’s core, I think it’s gotta be just the “pleasure” they get out of breaking someone else’s shit … these people exist, we know they exist.
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Eh. It’s a new platform with new instances and a lot of potential attack vectors. With new users it’s becoming a valid target for them.
No, Lemmy is nowhere near big enough for that. If it was, it would be simply bought out by one of those companies, and then shut it down, like with XMPP. They have no rhyme or reason to skulk around in the shadows.
In its current state, it is still very much in its infancy. A company would see more threat in the competing social networks trying to copy their model, or people just leaving outright than Lemmy for the time being. Mastodon would be more of a threat by comparison.
Nothing like a little bit of corporate sabotage!
The software developers who created Lemmy openly criticize systems of government and economics. These are nation-state battlegrounds too. The barrier to entrance is very low, as Lemmy doesn’t even do routine tracking of account creation, rate-limiting alone isn’t really defensive. 15 years ago sites like Reddit had major vote manipulation detection logic behind the scenes. This is pretty much unleashed playground for a lot of known tactics.
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With the American election next year and all the chaos on sXitter, no unlikely.
Good hope the child porn posting stops with that.
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I have not seen any of that and I sort by All.
With nsfw on? I do as well, but I usually have nsfw off
It wasn’t marked NSFW…
Oh yeah, that’d be a problem…
Child porn? Meh.
Not marking it NSFW? WHOA THERE BUB!
I sort by new in all, I guess I just got lucky I didn’t come across it.
Same, and I’m on all the time.
Are you serious? Holy shit. I haven’t seen any at all. But just the thought that someone is posting it. I hate people sometimes.
Big incident last night
Looks like even this place couldn’t keep it up. Unfortunate. Thanks admins for the transparency though.
Good call. Thank you for doing what you need to do to support the site and protect the users as necessary. And as always, the honesty and transparency is appreciated.
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I think it’s the right call honestly. We’ve grown so quick that it must be hard to manage by now.
Thanks for all the work you do! It isn’t unappreciated.
Hope it helps with the recent abuse.
If you could give me the numbers of new accounts monthly I would look into CloudFlare. If I can afford it I will even pay for it.
I don’t blame you for taking that decision. But it’s sad that this will deter legitimate users away, some of whom would’ve signed up otherwise.
Most will still be able to join. It just means that account activation will take a little longer for most people.
Detered != Unable
(deter | | unable) != good
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For me at least, lack of open sign ups immediately makes me not join an instance. It’s why I didn’t join lemmy the first few times I saw it talked about on reddit, when the main instance was lemmy.ml.
I guess I’m out of the loop, perhaps because I mostly browse communities I subscribed to, but…
What happened? Lots of spammy bots signing up and spamming the site? I guess I didn’t notice where I was looking
Also, what does application based sign up mean?
Anyhow, Lemmy.World and Lemmy (in general) are growing nicely, so what’s needed to defend them is cool.
Edit: fixed grammar
Is image posting temporarily turned off for lemmy.world users too?
Since last night, I’ve been unable to post (tested in [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected]). Switched to an alt account on a different instance and had no issue.
(getting JSON error: unexpected character at line 1 column 1)
I’m also having this issue.
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Oh that’s how you’re doing it! I was looking for any lemmy.world posts in my feed to see if I was alone with this issue, and I almost messaged you to see how you got it to work. Lol
Looks like lemmyshitpost is down at the moment. 🤔
Im getting this same error roughly a day later from your post. On both mobile and desktop.
Yeah, I know they’re busy trying to figure out how to deal with the attacks, so no pressure on them to restore it immediately. I just made an alt account yesterday and will post from there for a bit until this gets sorted.
Have you seen it mentioned anywhere why lemmyshitpost was the targeted community?
Nope, but I browse by All a lot and would guess that it was the most active comm on lemmy.world by good margin. They’re definitely targeting lemmy.world and trying to disrupt it.