• FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee
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    You know how it goes, first people start saying the silly meme phrase “ironically”, then they can’t stop themselves saying it, then it becomes awkwardly unironic, and then it gets embedded in the lexicon and Miriam-Webster adds it to the dictionary

    2060 is going to be lit fam AHEM I mean it’s going to be funny

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        Not to discredit your point, but 80 years ago was 1944, and everybody then would know what you mean by that 2nd sentence.

        Cool goes back to Shakespeare and beyond. But it was also popular in the American vernacular in the 1930s.

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          “Cool” was hardly the only thing modern vernacular about that sentence. It’s use 80 years ago would not have the same meaning now, and in the syntax of the sentence would seem odd, much like the OP’s usage of contemporary slang.

          Believe it or not, just because a word has previously been used as slang doesn’t mean the meaning hasn’t shifted through time. See: “low-key.”

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            Sure, the point is that 80 years isn’t that long ago. And your example still wouldn’t be so obscure as to be unintelligible at that time, regardles. Believe it or not.

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              I hear what you’re saying, but my original point was that even in 80 years, accepted syntax, vernacular usage, and general language construction can change quite a bit, so the OP post isn’t that odd. It’s still “intelligible,” and, indeed, language does change. Quite often, in fact.

              When I said “nearly unintelligible,” I meant it hyperbolicly to accentuate the fact that the modern language being highlighted by the OP is, similarly, not unintelligible. They are just examples of relatively new language use.

              I was highlighting the second sentence due to its modern syntax and the ways many of the words have grown to encompass broader meanings.

              Believe it or not, it didn’t even occur to me that “cool” was a slang word that might have shifted in the last 80 years, it’s so deeply embedded in my own idiomatic language that I was using it in that sentence as the word with historical stability in the sentence.

              Though, now that I’ve looked into the etymology, the usage in that sentence would also be a bit odd 80 years ago.

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      Merriam-Webster’s been adding stuff to the dictionary long before it’s even really embedded in the lexicon lately. Probably trying to stay relevant.

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        fr fr ive thought that too over the past few years

        Although that said I just tried to find some examples to justify that sentiment… and all their newly minted words seem legit to me. Maybe I’m just a silly outdated millennial now

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    Are the front curls really such a zoomer thing? I’ve been dealin’ with’em for decades now because Arabic and Irish heritage means my hair is constantly in rebellion against british beauty standards

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      It means “I am not being capricious”

      Jk I have no clue and don’t care don’t correct me

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      popularized from the Young Thug and Future track of the same name:

      My bitch can’t sleep at my house
      Make her sleep at a hotel now
      And when you talk, man, you talking off cap
      And your diamonds they looking like tap
      I was always ducking from the paps
      Keep an R&B bitch in my lap
      Out in Beverly Hills, I adapt
      But I still had to ride with that strap

      Yellow diamonds like banana, that’s cap
      Put some dirty in Mello Yello, no cap
      Rocking Maison Margiela’s, that’s cap
      Red bitch, Cinderella, no cap
      I can turn perroI can turn Pedro
      Bad bitch out the ghetto

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      I see your rizz and raise you a skibidi. (probably b/c I like the way that word sounds in my head… sk-i-bi-di do dah day 🎵 🎶 )

      Also, rizz means “the ability to attract a romantic or sexual partner” so… now I have to think about GWB strutting his stuff, thanks for that:-P (that’s surely what made me think of my own word… gotta flush it out somehow?)

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        Don’t make me feel old. That’s not nice! But yeah I know. It’s just still such a gut punch.

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      George Carlin was first.

      Joan Rivers got there just after.

      We’ve been laughing at jokes about 911 for ages. Being edgy isn’t new, even boomers do it

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        I remember Gilbert Gottfried at a Friar’s Club roast. Can’t remember what the actual joke was, but I remember he lost the whole audience, and then won them back with a spontaneous telling of “The Aristocrats”

        Kudos for Carlin, who made fun of government propaganda. Maybe not so much for Joan Rivers for making fun of FDNY widows.

        (I’m not a boomer, though. Or a millennial. Or really that edgy anymore, if I ever was…)

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        Oh I know. And there’s some lessening of the emotions, I’m not enraged by the jokes this time. Just…sad.

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      Millennials in NY were cracking dark jokes about 9/11 in high school. “Too soon” never existed for some of us.