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          Storage for what though? That’s why I asked. My device storage is 256 and I’ve only used 100, that’s with 700 songs downloaded. I’m curious what you need a ton of storage for.

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            I’ve about 2,000 and counting FLAC files on my micro SD card for high quality audio. Many from my CD collection, and a nice amount obtained through other means. I’m already at 90 gigs used in my 256 gig card.

            I’ll be getting a new phone at the end of the year, and to transfer all that music (plus my commissioned art collection) all I’d have to do it just pop the card into the new phone.

            No wrestling with cloud storage subscriptions or having to worry about my digital stuff being in somebody else’s hands. Just keep it on a tiny card smaller than my fingernail and back it up periodically to my desktop and my laptop. Best part is that I don’t even need any adapters to use headphones, as Motorola phones still have headphone jacks.

            There’s people with downloaded movies and shows they like having local access to without any streaming woes, folks who take tons of photos and videos, etc. Having an SD card slot is one of the requirements I need for me to want to use a phone.

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        28 net downvotes so far for asking “why”. I think Lemmy is becoming more toxic than Reddit was.

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    That’s actually making a comeback because the EU got pissed.

    My phone’s brand new and it has a removable battery, not even in the EU

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      I think it is because the EU listened to the people. This is what you get when elected representatives are not bankrolled by big business, and are allowed to enact legislation that doesn’t only benefit one side.

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        The EU has politicians that manage to legislate against the interests of gigantic tech corporations because European tech corporations are far smaller, and thus have much less leverage. Even if the US political system was significantly less corrupt, they’d probably still have issues to legislate against them.

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    Coz batteries degrade over time, and this way you’re either forced to buy a new phone, or have to pay to have the battery replaced

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      It’s also 10x easier to achieve IP67 water resistance with the battery sealed off. Having a removable battery would require more engineering contrary to shareholders’ wishes.

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        This also contributes to the bulk of the device. IIRC, at the time things shifted to sealed designs, Apple and others were competing to make phones as thin, wide, and tall as possible. But that’s not really an excuse; we can probably do better nowadays.

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    No headphone jack
    No memory card slot
    No ir blaster

    Why are they making it a useless device??

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        I love that my pixel 4a has a headphone jack. I’m overdue for an upgrade but I know I’m going to lose my fingerprint sensor and jack. Yeah it’s a security risk but this phone still works and performs well. I hate stupid planned obsolescence. I wished tech was more about stability and long life. But I guess that doesn’t make enough billions in revenue.

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          Those have any long lasting issues? My old 5a had the motherboard go. Trying to find a suitable replacement. Going back a generation wouldn’t be terrible if it’s reliable.

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            No idea. I got this used about 3 years ago. Never had to search for solutions to problems so I don’t know if they have any common issues.

            Given the issues with some of the newer pixels I wished Google would’ve left well enough alone with the fingerprint sensor :)

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      Who needs a micro SD when you can pay a subscription cloud service for the rest of your life??? - morons responding to me every time I lament the need for an SD card

      Not to mention if your screen gets fucked you can remove the card and have all your photos / movies instantly

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        Why not both! I love SD but its also pretty handy I can access photos from my PC without needing any further action (I refer mostly to OneDrive right now) SD still rules tho.

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      This drives me crazy. An iPhone 15 pro max with 256gb of storage is 1199 and the 512gb is 1399.

      So $200 for an extra 256gb. Meanwhile a fast, name brand, 1tb micro SD card is about $100.

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      They still do. My 2021 model phone has dual SIM, with one of the slots being enabled for either a SIM card or a SD card.

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    Take away user choice, use really bad excuses like water proofing and space saving, and you can be sure consumers will iteratively buy more frequently and spend more for cloud services.

    Bye battery Bye bye headphone jack Bye bye user expandable storage.

    Capitalism has steered us to this as the preferable product.

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      It really sucks that they charge so much money for the storage difference. Why are the pricing tiers based on the storage? It’s so strange.

      Anyways, I recall having a lot of issues with external storage in the past. Like Android just didn’t integrate that shit properly. It was kinda painful having the phone data and photos in separate places. Don’t remember specifics, I just know I constantly wished they were a single location.

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      I ended up buying a Motorola razr because at least the fucking thing fits in my pocket for once. That’s honestly the biggest tangible benefit I’ve gotten out of a phone purchase in a while.

      Each iteration of phone seems more like something I don’t want to even be involved with. Maybe I’ll just buy a light phone next time.

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        I remember when I could do everything with my phone using a single hand. I never grabbed my phone with two hands. Now I need two hands much more than before.

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          I don’t know why phablets are a thing. Phones are too big imo.

          I had a Motorola g power from 2020? I think? That’s about the right size. I actually wish they could make a usable phone that’s about the size of the bottom half of this one I’m using right now, but it would take some UI innovation which nobody is interested in. It’s funny too because the bigger flagship phones are more expensive, but I’d never pay for that.

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      I blame Apple. They slowly got rid of features and still sold a shit ton of phones. This is obviously more profitable so other companies followed.

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    Some still do. I just started working at Walmart, and they give you a Samsung phone to do your job. You use the camera for scanning tags, shelving, check item status, and a bunch of other shit. It’s a modern phone, with USB c, fingerprint sensor in the power button, android 13, stupid hole-punch camera, etc. And when I pulled off the otterbox case they gave me with it, I found that the back pulls off and the battery pops out, like all of my phones used to do back in the day. I assume that’s so they can more easily keep these phones in use, as they can pull out a failing battery and pop a new one in without having to send the phone sent off for servicing.

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      Likely being provided to a business rather than a consumer means that there’s incentive to make a product with what the purchaser wants.

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    Integrating the battery saves a small amount of space and weight. That makes the phone very slightly thinner and lighter, which is what most people seem to prefer. Same with not having expandable memory. IMO it’s a bad tradeoff, but I still miss physical keyboards.

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      The stupid part is that they will buy phone cause it’s 0.1mm thinner and then slap on 3mm phone case on top.

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        Don’t think anyone has actually bought a phone for the thinness since like, 2016, but also a case isn’t a decision of thinness. The people who use their phones without a case continue to do so because they like the look and feel, and those who use a case for protection will want it regardless of whether the phone is 5mm thicker.

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        I’ve got an Otterbox Defender on my phone. It’s the only reason my phone is still operational.

        I still want a user-replaceable battery though.

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      I never met anyone that said they wanted a thinner lighter phone.

      I’ve met tons of people that would take a half inch thick brick of a phone if it came with an equally big battery that could last days between charges.

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        That’s genuinely one of the things people look for; iPhones are incredibly dense designs, in a very sleek, smooth, light package, and people love them. A very basic phone case and a screen saver adds nearly half the OE thickness of the phone to the package, and look how many people forgo those, even on a phone that’s $1500. If I added that much thickness to a phone that started out at .5" thick, it would end up feeling like I was carrying a brick on my pocket all the time.

        I would still take the brick with replaceable battery though.

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          apple idiots buy whatever apple tells them to because they care more about the artificial status symbol of having the latest apple logo’d bullshit than they care about having a good or decent product.

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            Yeah, no. I’m an Android user, and have been for about a decade, but Apple makes good products. I think that Apple is overpriced, I don’t like their walled garden, but they’re still good. My wife had an iPhone 8 up until this year, and I’d gone through multiple Samsung and other phones in the same time period that all died due to hardware failures.

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              I wasnt saying you were, I was saying in general.

              Samsungs phones fell off a cliff after the 9, imho. I would never buy another samsung.

              Apple artificially destroying batteries to make you buy more phones, sooner, should have been the nail in the coffin of that company if people actually cared about the products and not the artificial status symbol.

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        Yeah, but that’s not neatly as portable as the old Crackberries that had slide-out keyboards.

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          Oh I feel you. I loved them too. The only reason why I had to switch (back when a physical keyboard was still kind of an option) was because I started to type in cyrillic too, and - especially as a newbie who isn’t familiar with the keyboard’s layout - a digital one was much easier to use. But I still hate that feeling of typing on my screen.

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            Am not convinced there are many who honestly enjoy typing on screen. It’s never great, just passable.

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              Definitely. I think the only people that like them are the people designing the phones, because they don’t have to worry about smaller/lighter/more durable keyboards.

              I had to give up my final phone with a physical keyboard because some of the keys stopped working, and there was no way to get an identical replacement anymore.

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                I so wanted Blackberry Key3 to come out and was holding out for that one, then they canceled their phone production entirely. Old Blackberry Passport was such a good design for my use case. Sadly outdated software meant I was unable to use it as my daily driver.

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    My Fairphone 3 still has a removable battery. I replaced the battery myself last year. It took me 10 seconds once it arrived.

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    They also had keyboards that worked well and there was even real competition for on-screen keyboards until Google bought out and dissolved the best keyboard because they really want your ducking typing data.

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      I’ve been using Google’s keyboard for like…10 years now. When has it ever not been the best? I’d tried so many alternatives.