In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined
They are far simpler with fewer parts. It is only a matter of scaling up manufacturing. The biggest cost is the battery.
BYD is closing in on Tesla as the largest EV manufacturer and most Americans have no idea they exist.
I was in China two months ago and the use of electric cars is honestly changing the feeling of big cities. Delivery motorcycles and service vehicles are all electric now, and with the number of electric cars on the road, streets are a lot quieter now barring the frequent honking. Less air pollution too.
What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds. Made me feel like I was walking around a cyberpunk movie set.
Cannot wait until EV replaces the noisy crotch rocket bikes .
There were already tons of ebikes on the streets when I was there in 2016. It was a bit of a problem as a pedestrian as they are super quiet and the practice is to drive those things pretty much without regard for any concept of pedestrian right of way. You learned to be ultra careful crossing any street.
Electric bikes should in theory be much, much faster. Energy density is a problem, tho. Can’t fit much battery in a small frame, so you sacrifice power for range.
Find me a 200hp electric bike that will do 400km on a charge and I’ll be the first in line.
My CBR1000rr would do like 150kms on a tank. Find me any bike that will do 400.
Maybe I got a bit excited on the range there. Find me a bike that does 150km and charges in 30 seconds 😏
As a noisy crotch rocket bike rider, I agree completely.
Would be interesting to see. The Chinese EVs being pushed on the market here (Europe) are the typical ugly huge American SUV style.
Yeah, American here. This isn’t a huge mystery. Electric cars here are expensive because people refuse to give up their giant vehicles. American culture is so gross…
The batteries on some of these SUV EVs weigh as much as a car. It’s pretty silly.
Do you have pictures? I would love to see.
I found this article from last year showing some interesting models. You’ll see the most popular EVs range from more classical designs to weird and retro-futuristic.
Some of them also make futuristic noises when they drive around… The noise isn’t needed at all because the motor is pretty much silent, so they’re added by manufacturers so you hear them coming. I swear they sound like something out of a '90s sci-fi flick.
Hope those are customizable. Can’t wait to load up the TIE Fighter engine sound.
What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds.
So, the Vaporwave color pallete?
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Electric cars use their brakes tremendously less than ICE ones.
I visited the BYD factory years ago. I have no idea how big it is compared to others but it absolutely blew my mind. I was up on like 5th floor and when they sounded the lunch bell it looked like ants out the window. I think they said it was about 600k employees in that building.
600k seems a bit too much. That’s a fairly large city.
I don’t know how many workers BYD have, but Foxconn flagship factory is Longhua Science & Technology Park and it is a small city with hundreds of thousands people working there. Check the Google Maps satellite view, it’s crazy.
It being huge is an understatement. They have dorms where people live on-site and it’s they are massive. Multiple soccer complexes and tons of restaurants all on campus.
Is BYD a China state run company?
It’s only a matter of getting manufacturers to give the extra margin they’ve been creaming
Meanwhile where I am in Canada, with massive amounts hydroelectric power: “bUt tHe gRiD!”
A certain amount passes through anyway, but how much water has to be let through a dam to charge a car?
The dam electricity has to charge the damn car but the damn grid is inadequate ….
I can believe it. Massachusetts has been try to buy some of that sweet dam Canadian hydro - apparently there is plenty but no damn transmission lines to get it here. And the damn nimbies in Maine and New Hampshirite have no incentive to let us build Dam power lines
The grid still has to get the electricity from the dam to the end user.
Yes and the electric company is handsomely rewarded for providing that service.
You can have infinity watts at the power dam but the grid to and in your town can still have capacity issues.
This should not be hard to understand.
Nor should it be hard to understand that power companies are not stupid and already have a roadmap for renewables (solar, hydro, wind etc.), energy storage, EV charging facilities and other 21st century concerns. They are not blindsided by this change and are looking forward to it.
It’s as if you haven’t read the original comment this thread is about but just want to argue for the sake of arguing.
Actually I have and I’m also aware that electric companies including in Canada have roadmaps out until 2050 to accommodate not just EVs, but the transition to heat pumps, renewables and all the rest.
See, you just need to argue more, then the grid will have capacity by the time you’re done arguing.
And fend off all the frivolous lawsuits from the fish huggers. In the US we have been dismantling hydro dams for years instead of building more.
Yes, long inactive hydro dams are being taken down. These are the kind that incorporate none of the modern ecological improvements (fish ladders, aeration, etc), where the reservoir is not used for drinking water. Usually the reservoir water is chock full of excess nitrogen and other pollutants. These are usually defunct small-scale hydro plants that were formerly associated with an old-school river-side factory - the kind that now stand vacant or are converted into high end condos nationwide. Or are you talking about hydro dams getting taken down because the water usage was too great to sustain the reservoir because we’ve decided that the desert is a great place for agriculture?
But that’s right, fuck the fish and aquatic life, we should invest massive capital on restarting decades dead microhydro plants.
While I’m all about killing the southern California agriculture industry, I’m more talking about demoing dams in historically great places for dams instead of replacing them, or upgrading them. There’s hundreds alone on the west coast.
That for sure has nothing to do with state subsidies for EV manufacturers.
Oh no, capitalism does actually work and makes life better! Even in China!
I wonder how this will be spun negatively against China in western media.
I’m from a country that has salty relations with China and I think it’s good they’re embracing EVs. It will push my own country harder to catch up and as long as it’s adopted more sustainability than ICE it’s good for the planet as a whole.
Lol you do not really wonder.
