it does say that theres only 20 in the label, but im more pissed about the waste. everything couldve been put on 3 trays

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    The only time I’ve seen something like this is when my doctor really wanted me to try an anti-depressant, so he gave me a perpetual supply of free samples.

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        A doctor said this and it was such a good metaphor: imagine that you have a 3000 year old machine (which no one understands anymore) with a bunch of cogs and gears, and you’re looking down at it from above. You’re trying to fix a gear that is slightly out of alignment further down in the machine, you can’t really tell which one it is but you know roughly which area, and to fix it you drop a rock into the machine and watch it fall down.

        That’s what we’re doing with SSRIs. We’re dropping a rock that manipulates our serotonin, which gives a bunch of effects but not the one we’re after. The one we’re after is somewhere down the line. It’s affected by processes that are affected by the serotonin somehow. We’re not exactly sure which one it is, but we know that if we drop the rock in there it will make the gears align sooner or later.

        Which is why it takes time, and why it has some odd effects on people sometimes.

        edit: added a detail I missed, to make it clearer.

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          I totally understand that this is a necessary process for anti depressants but damn it sounds scary as fuck. “Eat these brain chemicals and come back and see us in a couple weeks”

          “How does it work?”

          “Fuck if I know it’s kind of like throwing a rock at an old machine. Just make sure you let me know if you experience any of the long extensive list of potential side effects!” Like damn im for sure not a doctor but that sounds like russian roulette with brain pellets to me. If Ecstasy (which was invented by a pharmacutical company to be medication) can permanantly fuck up your brain I would bet money that these pills certainly do the same. I bite my tongue anytime someone mentions they are considering it or talking to a doctor about it, their choice. But man it scares the fuck out of me. Ill just continue to sleep all the time and stay angry lol

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            Sure, but that’s a lot medicine. We know it works, just not why. We know why many things work and how, but far from all of them.

            They’re really not that scary, as long as you take your prescription as instructed and have regular contact with a physician.

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            SSRIs definitely work for some people. It’s just that everyone’s brain chemistry is extremely different and complex. Doesn’t make it less scientific. Making the best guess is math and science.

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              I would say it even works for many people. We’re aware of the fact that it works, and we’re aware of the fact that it effects serotonin. We also know that serotonin isn’t what does the work. There’s something down the line that is affected by the processes of the body that just happens to react in the chain from the serotonin manipulation.

              But all the other things that are affected in that chain can also do weird stuff to you if you’re unlucky. That’s why it’s important to have good communication with your physician during the process.

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                This is one thing where so many people I talk to got unlucky. For me, SSRIs were super lucky in that they helped alleviate depression caused by my anxiety which then helped me find other roots of the anxiety. Turns out undiagnosed ADHD is terrible for your anxiety - got diagnosed though!

                Side effects for me have included stomach issues and weight not coming off even as my physical condition improves as I’ve started running again. I’ll take it for now until I start weaning off in the future. I wouldn’t say they were a lifesaver but they helped immensely.

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                  I always recommend trying it if the doctor recommends it (and if you want it) even though I was unlucky and turned paranoid three pills in. I stopped taking them and it was over in a couple of days. So many people get helped by them and never say a word. People you and I wouldn’t ever assume were on them.

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        It depends on what you mean by “start working.” The first time I took a sertraline, I felt absolutely baked, but I feel like it took weeks for the desirable effects to take hold.

        Then again, my doctor also told me that something like 60% of the effects are a placebo.

        Regardless, yes, he would give me like a month of these individal samples at a time. I’m not sure how he swung that. It was like 2003 or 2004.

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    Why not put them all in one little baggy? That’s how I buy my pills from Rick.

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    There are many reasons these may be pacakaged this way: from lowering the possibility of accidentally taking the wrong pill to anti-theft.

    It would be cheaper for the manufacturer to just put them all in a bottle, so rest assured they wouldn’t do this if the benefits didn’t outweigh the costs.

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      There’s been a shift away from putting pills in bottles.

      IIRC it was pioneered by the NHS (UK), because they found that the mild inconvenience and time of popping out the pills one by one, in comparison to the ease and speed of downing a whole bottle of them, cut down on people attempting suicide by overdose by a surprising amount.

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        That’s… Actually pretty genius. When I’m depressed I don’t have the mental energy to do that.

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        That’s how governments work. Not a single penny spent on making life more worth living, but methods of making suicide somewhat less convenient hits industrial scale production.

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          This is such a cynical take. NHS finds a simple change to save lives and you spun it bash on the idea of government.

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      Adding that certain markets won’t accept bottles, you must use a blister.

      Why is it one per card, bit of a head scratcher, but given the logistics and distribution costs of shipping this format, agree they wouldn’t do this for fun.

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      I’m willing to believe there’s a reason to have them separated but why would they use such a large packaging for it?

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    I got a big pack of milka cookies, it was huge…triple the size of their regular…turns out it only came with 2 extra cookies.

    It had a huge plastic tray, remind me again why i’m being told to use a paper straw once every 2 years i actually get a straw when manufacturers keep pulling shit like that.

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      Have you made any effort to change the laws about straws beyond complaining about it on social media?

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        Why would i change laws for the straws when they are replaced for a good cause.

        The point i attempted to make is that that single straw is like half a gram of plastic saved when the manufacturer makes possibly millions of these packages that waste 30x the plastic that is saved on my straw.

        We just need a good and effective way to make the manufacturer of these products change their ways. Adding costs/fines/taxes for plastic usage isn’t helping because they just pass those on to us and sneak in a little extra profit.

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    Medicinal clamshell package. I ain’t even upset about all the excess packaging. I’m pissed at the fact you need a circular saw to open your medicine just to take the daily dose.

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    This reminds me of when I got an RX for Quvivq. It came in a box… Which had three boxes inside of that… Each inner box had a slide-out blister pack with 10 pills in it 🤦‍♂️