Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say::undefined

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    “Film studios” can eat a bag of rotting dicks. Hollywood was literally founded on the specific plot of land that was not only cheap AF, but also as far away from the European filmmakers (they were stealing from) as they could afford.

    Fuck. Off.

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        11 months ago

        Weinstein? Do you say Harvey Weinstein? I could’ve sworn you said Harvey Weinstein has had festering dick rot for so long that he’s become an oozing open wound entirely, but that assumes he wasn’t already.

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      In this case, it’s less about the actionability of going after the pirate and more about using them as a witness to go after the ISP with deeper pockets by showing they failed to kick pirating users off of their service. They don’t care that they downloaded it, they care that the users knew they wouldn’t get in trouble for piracy with that ISP and that the ISP benefited from that by keeping pirating users subscriptions active. Testimony from pirating users about why they chose that ISP and how even they knew the ISP wouldn’t do anything to resolve copyright violation issues could be pretty helpful in court.

      From the article:

      In this week’s filing, the film studios claim that six Redditors’ IP address logs are “clearly relevant and proportional to the needs of the case" because the Reddit users all made comments that either establish “that Frontier has not reasonably implemented a policy for terminating repeat infringers sufficient for a safe harbor affirmative” or that “the ability to freely pirate without consequence was a draw to becoming a subscriber of Frontier."

      Last year, a Reddit user wrote that they received 44 emails from Frontier threatening to cut off their service due to torrent downloads, but “if they didn’t do it after 44 emails … they won’t."

      In 2022, another Reddit user said that they had used Frontier DSL for years and “despite the shitty internet, they didn’t give a shit what I downloaded.”

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    Imagine you have a right to know who’s talking about doing something illegal without proof they actually carry it out. What is that, a cop run film company?

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    Even if they got the IP addresses, I thought I read an article from a while ago saying that the supreme Court decided that IP addresses aren’t good enough to take any legal action on someone since they’re shared.

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      Also IP addresses can be spoofed, an extreme example was a teacher who’s life was ruined because it was discovered he was stashing kiddy porn on the school issued computer, and then was exonerated because evidence was found that revealed that the actual pedo was using the victim’s laptop address as basically a VPN to find this stuff without being tracked.

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      It appears they aren’t taking legal action against the pirates but instead wanting to use them as witnesses against the ISP who has more money to go after and from the sound of it didn’t have decent repeat infringer policies in place. They also are after more than just the IP address, such as name, email address, and logs. That would presumably be enough to identify someone more clearly.

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    You know what? I fucking hate movies now. Every movie that comes out these days if trash. But I’m gonna dl all these new blockbusters and fuckin seed them indefinitely. Why? Because fuck em that’s why.

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    I wonder what all the people attacking AI data harvesting are going to say. Sorry the face eating leopard is looking at your face