• Aurix@lemmy.world
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    Bruh, if you had invested your school lunch money instead of literally eating it and thus draining it down the toilet, you would have been a millionaire by now. Subscribe for more of my finance tips for just $20 a month.

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    Well of course they do. That’s the whole point of the legal scam of investing. If it benefits regular people it wouldn’t exist.

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    This is an important thing to note when someone claims that you should be eager about stock market performance because of your [comparative handful of] shares in your retirement account. Accounts such as the 401k were probably devised to tie up regular people’s money into the stock market, injecting more money into it and making it seem more important (and thus worth bailing out).

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        They really cooked up such a great Ponzi with 401k. I’m sure it’ll get rugged right when we come of age to cash out.

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        This point is huge and seemingly overlooked by most people? Once a majority of boomers start pulling their 401k money I don’t think millennials and gen x will be putting as much money back in.

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      Accounts such as the 401k were probably devised to tie up regular people’s money into the stock market

      Aren’t pensions also tied up in the stock market. Yes there’s a difference of who manages and how the contributions are made, but both plans put the security of your retirement in the market in some capacity, right?

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        Pensions also allocate some funds in stocks, but overall they invest conservatively. By default, most 401k funds are set to a target retirement date fund and early on those are mostly stocks. These funds also often have significant annual fees. Instead of a single large fund managed conservatively, you have many individual funds that are managed all over the place. The common advice is to invest more aggressively when you’re younger, there has also been a huge push toward ETFs which are their own tangled mess and have a potential for trouble in the future, but that’s a different topic.

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            Vanguard is good with fees. That 0.44% is an average so there are also funds that charge more. I think fees have come down as 1) more attention was brought to them 2) Such funds became more computerized and straightforward to manage. Still, a 0.44% average fee each year is a significant chunk of change.

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              I fully agree on .44% being high. I raise an eyebrow on anything over .10%. But if you follow the old reddit personal finance prime directive… You should max out your 401k inso far as you maximize the employer match. Then max out your Roth IRA where you hopefully have access to better expense ratio target funds. I have been trying out the 0% Fidelity index mutual funds as opposed to older S&P500 funds to maximize potential there.

              I haven’t really looked at the robo brokers though. What are fees like for betterment and the like?

              Either way, I think people are shooting themselves in the foot for not investing in index funds or target funds out of moral principle. Unfortunately there isn’t much other safety net for your retirement, and you’re probably going to be forced to spend cash for everyday goods from major corporations. Might as well try to secure some value of those same corporations at the same time instead of letting your savings constantly depreciate over time.

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    Seems weird to make this assertion, and fail to provide what the total holdings cutoff is to be in the top 10%.

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        Almost like it’s clickbait designed for echo chambers like eattherich.

        Don’t get me wrong, fuck the rich. But bold claims like this need to show their methodology. Hiding it is sus.

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          “The 1%” is the catchphrase, but that’s only a net worth of about $10 Million. The people they are really mad at are the 0.01% or lower. This article uses 10% which is about $850,000 in net worth.

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        154k is middle class. And everyone in this thread is trying to figure out how to fuck them the hardest.

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          Then you don’t understand the statistical definition of middle class. According to PEW the bounds in 2021 were 43,000 and 130,000.

          If that sounds like it’s not enough to be financially secure in the modern day… All I have to say is people have been trying to tell everyone.

          That said, yeah of course we’re not trying to eat the merely rich. However the stock market is hardly some big equalizer if it effectively only serves the top ten percent.

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    No shit. If someone does not have money they don’t need then they can not buy stocks or any investment.

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    No no you guys all don’t understand that this is a good thing because… (let me check my notes…) ….uh…hm…derrr…communism.

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    I don’t think it’s good to have such wealth inequality, but I do this general investment into the stock market should be encouraged.

    401ks are so much better than pensions as a retirement vehicle. Better return on investment and more financial separation from the company I work for. I never worry about someone raiding the pension fund or a company going bankrupt, and I’ve received much better return on investments than the numbers you hear from pension funds! That’s not even considering 401k matching…