Excerpts:
“Seattle responded to the request by filing a lawsuit in Travis County, stating they cannot comply because Texas has no jurisdiction in Washington State, and no care was provided by the hospital in Texas. They also point out that the Dormant Commerce Clause, protected by the United States Constitution, “protects the right to interstate travel, including to obtain healthcare services.” By targeting out-of-state hospitals for enforcement of laws that only apply within the jurisdiction of Texas, they “discriminate against healthcare based on an interstate element,” violating constitutional protections, according to the legal filing. Lastly, Seattle Children’s Hospital cannot comply due to a shield law passed by Washington State. This law bars the hospital from providing any patient data and from responding to subpoenas pursuant to “protected healthcare services” obtained within the jurisdiction of Washington. Protected healthcare services include abortion, reproductive care, and gender-affirming care.”
“This case promises to be extraordinarily complex. Seattle Children’s Hospital is challenging the jurisdiction of the demands directly in a Texas state court. Regardless of what the local court decides, the claims are likely to go to the Texas Supreme Court. Given that the claims also have a time limit on them and that appeals in Texas automatically favor the attorney general due to an automatic lifting of stays in the state, Seattle Children’s Hospital workers and providers for trans patients from Texas could be under legal jeopardy. Ultimately, the case presents questions of conflicting state laws and regulation of conduct across state lines, and the implications of those laws could be dire for abortion and trans care nationwide.”
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It makes perfect sense. It’s about control by any means. The fact of the matter is that, by definition, conservatives don’t want progress. They’ll say and do anything to stand in the way of progress, even if it’s contradictory.
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This case promises to be extraordinarily complex.
It really shouldn’t be complex at all. It should be extremely simple: Is Seattle within the jurisdiction of the Texas AG or not?
the fact of trans people being involved has the effect of making anything complicated, apparently. It’s just sooooo complicated to checks notes allow us the same rights and protections as anyone else. But oh hey someone’s building a database of trans people while passing a bunch of anti-trans legislation? Hold on now it’s complicated he may have a point.
And, of course, it’s only trans people for now. If they can build a database of people getting gender-affirming care, they can build a database of people getting any other sort of medical care. For example, care for HIV or sickle cell anemia or Tay Sachs. And then there’s the ability to make a database of women getting legal abortions, certain forms of birth control or IVF treatments. Awfully convenient way to keep track of ‘problem’ members of society, isn’t it?
They (gop) really want a civil war.
Even if they won their precious civil war, in their brave new world of Jesus Trumpmerica, states still aren’t going to let other states tell them what to do.
The only world in which Texas’ AG has this sort of power is a world where a country that includes the Pacific Northwest is called Texas.
At this point so do I. These monsters fill me with rage on a daily basis. Let’s fucking do it already, there’s way more liberals than vile conservatives. I’m ready to pop a few for the betterment of our country.
Who will rid us of this meddlesome priest?
OK, that’s driving me nuts - what’s that line from?
Paraphrased from an alleged quote by Henry II about Thomas Beckett from a millennia ago. I think it was turbulent instead of meddlesome, but you get the drift.
This case promises to be extraordinarily complex
Does it? It seems pretty clear to me that the state of Texas does not have any authority over a children’s hospital over 1000 miles outside of its jurisdiction. What exactly is complex about this?
It’s going to be complex because the Texas AG has already made their dumb decision, and now the hospital is suing the state of Texas in Texas.
It’ll be complex because the fascist Texas courts are involved.
I would be surprised if this could lose, even in Texas. The court will have to confront the double standard of Texas laws applying to other states, but other states laws not applying in Texas. Setting the precedent that states must comply with medical laws from other states would be a major win for Texans, which is why they can’t let it happen.
The court will have to confront the double standard of Texas laws applying to other states, but other states laws not applying in Texas.
I’m sure they’ll find a way to conclude Texas State Is Best State
This might be a first pass where they intend to make the case go away under Texas jurisdiction if they can first and if they can’t, then they might just say “well you don’t have jurisdiction here anyways” and take it to federal court.
Shouldn’t he be in prison for when he tried to murder that poor pregnant woman a couple weeks ago?
Why was the lawsuit filed in Texas and not in Washington State? The hospital is based in Seattle, the people coming for care received that care in Seattle, … Surely Washington state courts should have the final say.
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Well yes, the fascist politicians are being performative as usual, but it’s the Washington hospital that filed in the Texas court, not Texas republicans. If some random loonies from across the continent where to slander and threaten me, then I would go to my local authorities/police/courts to try and put a stop to it. I would not go to loonietown myself to complain about the loonies, because I’d be afraid of finding even more loonies. So the part I don’t get, is why the Washington hospital had to/wanted to file their lawsuit in Texas instead of in Washington.
Because Washington State has no jurisdiction over Texas. The vice versa is the whole point of this suit.
Why was the lawsuit filed in Texas and not in Washington State?
because they haven’t rigged Washington yet
Can they also try to undermine the federal HIPAA law at the same time?
Human trafficking is no big deal, don’t see why someone as really and annoying as HIPAA would get in Texas way
Don’t see how. HIPAA has clear and wide exceptions to allow sharing for court orders and “as required by law.”
“With limited exceptions, HIPAA’s privacy rules preempt any contrary requirement of state law unless the state law is more stringent than the federal rules.” In re Collins, 286 S.W.3d 911, 917 (Tex. 2009) (citing 45 C.F.R. § 160.203).
Whose law?
He was born in 1962 and worked two years as “business consultant” and eleven years as lawyer for corporations. In his 61 years of life he has worked at most thirteen of them. The rest of the time has been bouncing around fake government part time jobs. He has zero experience with law enforcement or the justice system in general.
As long as we allow the talentless hacks of the world to rule us the world that they want will remain. Go ask your local elected officials if they can change a tire and how was work today.
Go ask your local elected officials if they can change a tire and how was work today.
What does this have to do with anything? I get that you’re talking about relating to the common experience, but that doesn’t have anything to with being able to govern. Don’t know if you’re American, but here we had the Tea Party at one time (the precursor of MAGA, in a way), so basically your MTG and Boebert types. These types of people can relate to the common experience quite well, but that doesn’t give them with any sense on how to effectively be part of legislature, so their default is being asinine attention seekers. There are plenty of people who have common roots who are just as terrible in their thinking as any elite. What matters I think is how well someone can empathize and think beyond party lines because at the end of it that’s what’s required to get things done.
It matters because not only relatability it matters because they haven’t worked and they haven’t developed any skillset.
Sarah Palin: journalist degree 5 years out of her entire life as a sportscaster.
Jan Brewer: radiology certificate she didn’t use, homemaker
Ken Paxton: 3 years as a corporate lawyer for JC Penny and a corporate law firm for 2
Since you asked about the Tea Party I mentioned a few. None of these people spent 30 years adding productive value to the world. They did some work and drifted up, and they rule us. Having zero clue how the systems that keep us alive operate.
I am sorry, but some journalists are the best people you’ll ever meet, ditto for lawyers. You can get a really great sense of systems level thinking as both a journalist and lawyer, less so as a homemaker. Conversely, some of the most ardent assholes are store clerks and plumbers. Let’s not make unnecessary stereotypes, there’s enough of that already. Assholes come in all flavors, and thinking just because someone did a 9-5 doesn’t make them an asshole is a mistake.
It isn’t that I don’t think those are real jobs or that people who work trades have no assholes. It is the duration. Really I want you to think about this. These three big political leaders worked white-collar jobs for under half a decade. Paxton is 61. He has spent under 1/13 of his life working.
Ah okay, fair! I guess I read incorrectly. I also don’t think you mean that’s the only important criterion for measuring someone’s ability to effectively serve in government. I read things a little literally, that’s my problem ^^
If you can arrest an entire hospital can you arrest an entire state government?
you can do anything if you work hard and believe in yourself
-my mom, multiple occasions
Can confirm. Many of us are quite familiar with your mom, multiple occasions.
Republican sues to see kids genitals.
I have dealt with Ken a few times now. He is as big a douchebag as he is a dipshit.
Sounds like a tale. We would love to hear it.
He just took part in a few meetings I led or was part of. All interactions with him before, during and after said meetings were unpleasant. He also said some seriously dumb shit. You know the type that pretends to be knowledgeable by asking or stating things with great authority, but what they say or ask is either not remotely close to on-topic, or shows a complete lack of knowledge or comprehension of the topic? He was that guy.
Does Texas believe we don’t have guns?
Just because we don’t parade around with it or make it our identity.
Who exactly is he planning to put in jail? Sounds like workers in seattle. But really… which one? I honestly don’t even know why they bothered to respond to this political stunt.
According to the article title they’re going to put the hospital itself in jail. They’ll call in construction equipment and dig the hospital up out of the ground and transport it to a large custom made jail cell.
Suck a trans dick, Texas.
