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Meanwhile, LOTR nerds:
I’ve never understood this rift… I like Star Trek and Star Wars. Can’t we just agree that we’re all sci-fi nerds?
They’re very different takes on futuristic sci fi.
I enjoy Star Wars but I’m not a “fan”, it’s just a very different series to what I most enjoy watching.
I would agree. I think ‘fan’ would apply to at least being into the lore. I’m not especially into the lore of Star Wars beyond what I see on screen. In Star Trek, I like discussing the lore, the “science,” etc. I’m definitely a fan.
Uhhhgggh I have to be that nerd, Star Wars isn’t the future, it’s a long time ago, in the past.
In a galaxy far, far away.
Literally not in our galaxy. Not in a close one either. Star Trek is, with the exception of 1 episode (?), in the milky way galaxy.
They’re literally the first things we learn about Star Wars.
Can’t we just agree that we’re all sci-fi nerds?
If only it were that easy.
Gundam scares me because I know I will love it, and there is such a huge amount of it that I may never crawl back out of that hole.
Gundam has so many reboots and varying timelines and stuff.
I personally think 8TH MS Team is the peak show for a grounded war story version.
Yes, but I think “FanDom” implies “Fanatical Domination” meaning someone in The “FanDom” of a certain thing is sexually aroused by dominating other with their fanatical following of said thing.
That’s the only explanation I’ve been able to come up with and I find it hilarious so I’m sticking with it.
And Cons are about conning people into buying fan merchandize and provide a free advwrtisement in a form of cosplay.
My daughter likes going to cons just to look at the cosplay and she never buys anything, so I guess they only conned her out of the entry fee.
And fans are blowhards trying to push their favourite thing on others a spread it further and further.
So say we all.
NEVER!
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I like Star Trek because of the hopeful future it depicts, the exploration I would love to experience, and the well developed characters.
Episodes are varied, one episode might focus on a side character’s love life, where another might be a battle against a superior foe that feels like a Das Boot adaptaion.
I recommend Strange New Worlds, it’s a return to episodic storytelling, it’s got great visuals, great actors, and the weakest episode is better than The Next Generation’s average episode.
I recently introduced a friend to Star Trek with SNW without explaining anything and it did a great job of introducing the setting and itself
I must say the biggest problem with Star trek is consistency. TNG oscillates from the best television I’ve ever seen to worst from one episode to the next
That’s why I recommend SNW over TNG for newcomers
Its more of a philosophical space drama then an action packed space opera.
I just appreciate how the prime directive limits the characters. They almost always could militarily dominate the enemy, but that’s never the goal.
On the flip side a lot of times the only reason characters survive encounters with entities far more powerful than them is a laser like focus on understanding what an unknown entities motivations are.
I love it when a Star Trek captain phones up some evil looking spaceship that is blowing shit the fuck up and is like “what is it precisely that you want?”. The alien picking up inside the ship usually doesn’t want to talk and it takes the captain cutting through several layers of bullshit until they discover why and the why usually drastically changes the situation.
At the same time, this strategy isn’t portrayed in a naive way that encourages aliens to walk all over starfleet, when you understand the motivations of romulans you understand you better blow them the fuck up if they start testing you or they will see it culturally as a weakness and invade…
Further, there are entities that are just an order of magnitude more powerful that can’t be stopped with any degree of force like Q and the characters just have to deal with it which I like because it keeps Star Trek from becoming a power fantasy about super heroes.
There’s a ‘Where to start’ FAQ linked in the sidebar wiki for this community. I recommend going there and taking a look.
The best place to start largely depends on your personal preferences in terms of whether shows need to be action packed, have long term serialization vs episodic, and tolerances for 60s or 80s/90s trends in special effects, technobabble, Shakespearean acting styles.
I’m an older person who has been watching since TOS was in first run, and saw the original Star Wars as a teen. Alien 1 too. All to say, I saw all of it as it came out. We were just so glad in the late 70s that someone was making sci-fi movies that weren’t post-Armageddon dreary.
Trek has held my interest more intently, but I read more than my share of the SW ‘legends’ books as they came out. I can see a wide range of offerings in both franchises, appealing to different audiences and tastes.
It rather boggles me that there are folks who have tried one but not the other. It’s like someone who is a DC or Marvel fan and has never checked out the other. You may not find anything to like, but the potential of finding another universe of stories that interest you is more than worth the risk.
A word of caution. Just about Star Trek every fan thinks that the show they first watched or their favourite show is the best place to start. They’ll argue passionately that you’ll do best starting where they did. Ignore all of it. You’re you.
Read the ‘where to start?’, check out ‘Memory Alpha’ or Wikipedia for the basic description of the main series, pick one that appeals and try the pilot. Be also cautioned that many of the shows take a while to find their groove. Checking out a ‘best of’ list for early seasons is ok if you’re not the of a completist temperament. Hope you find the Trek that’s best for you.
My favorite thing about Star Trek- and I do like Star Wars, but this is where I think you may not like Star Trek if you like Star Wars- is that they (generally) try talking things out before using their weapons. I like to dream that we will eventually become a society where violence is not our first reaction to the unknown.
Star Trek is not at all comparable to Star Wars. If you want to start I would personally start with The Next Generation. Not the first but not too old either and one of the best series of Star Wars.
I got told by Lemmy to start from Voyager and I’ve had no regrets. Low barrier for entry in terms of not needing to know much about star trek, introduces a lot of important lore to take into different series, hits a lot of the great beats of the rest of the material.
For one Star Trek isn’t fantasy in space which is honestly a lot more appealing to those of the nerdy persuasion.
Like, Star Wars has ships that can travel anywhere and basically instantly whereas there are actually in universe explanations for how that might work in Trek and you can’t just zoom home whenever you want - Star Trek Voyager is a whole show about a ship that can’t return home. There are also just way better characters in trek and enough variety that everyone has different favorites.
It’s also nice that many of the conflicts in trek are solved through logic, diplomacy, and smarts. Only in Star Trek Discovery and the Picard show does the franchise venture too far into “pew pew” territory.
At the end of the day Star Wars is like 10 movies and a handful of shows that don’t do much and Trek has that many movies plus like 700 episodes of content.
One last tidbit, most of trek actually flows really well into each other and I think is way more cohesive than Star Wars where each era of movies feels like a different universe.
Literally one of the biggest plot lines in Discovery is struggling with a lovecraftian horror that annihilates entire planets and having the heroes save the day by sticking to a philosophy of diplomacy, logic and understanding even when most people are clamoring to just nuke the shit out of it?
Also, Picard can be silly but nowhere in its DNA does it abandon the heart of Star Trek for the pew pews? At the end of the second season the only thing that saves the day is characters coming to an understanding and trust with one another? Picard doesn’t have a big fist fight on a cliff or something. The only thing that works to resolve the conflict is establishing trust with a character who has the power to unleash a massive enemy?
…did you watch the same shows I did?
Yeah they have flaws, lots of em, but I don’t think your read on those shows is fair.
I didn’t watch Discovery but Picard is 100% pewpew. Its like they only watched the Trek movies. Even the third season, which was hailed as a “return to trek” when released is absolutely still Movie Picard and not TNG Picard.
I’ve watched Picard and discovery twice now and can safely say they’re very pew pew. The third season of Picard rocks, regardless. I still consider discovery to be the worst of all Star Trek shows. At the end of the day, I love all trek, but those two are not the highlights of the franchise.
Firefly
I could never be like the common Star Wars nerd 🤮 (just jokes)
How dare you compare me to those low life, good for nothing, disney lovers. We are totally not the same. We might have the same origin, we’re called “nerds”. But down the road, they took a wrong turn and lost their way. However, I love them like a brother, because there is noone better to pick on than your brother.
I don’t like Star Wars
